Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r
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(16-12-2016, 02:40 PM)bunny wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The example was an extended one to clarify what I was saying. Shortened form below.

                                                        "Italia hai fama"



The shortened form has different gematria values and thus wouldn't fit the same text.



[deleted for brevity}...he had dealings in Florence since 1908 if not earlier, and the 1912 date is not watertight.  He also may have got it directly from the Vatican (order and city), and not the suspected Villa Mondragone from the Jesuits in secret before it entered the Vatican library.  The crux being the translation suggests it was relocated (and not just part of a future slow moving purchase of manuscripts) in Italy in 1903 and the Vatican was the purchaser and told physical custody of it in 1903 in Vatican city.

This of course is not found in any resource so it cannot be confirmed, but is something I will follow up if ever possible.  Bear in mind this data is from a speculated ungrammatical, elliptical, wrong? translation of the Voynich text.  It would be interesting to see if it ever turns out to be correct data.

Bunny



The Vatican has traditionally been very reluctant to give up its treasures and has only recently begun giving access to "outsiders" and even this access was limited until the inception of the Vatican digitization project. Voynich was a Jew. The Vatican Catholic stronghold was probably not eager to do commerce with Jewish bookselling speculators in the early 1900s, a period when Jews were being expelled from Russia, Germany, the Ukraine, and other areas.


To convince people that the Vatican Christian stronghold was willing to sell part of its library to W. Voynich, you will have to come up with examples of other similar transactions during that time period.


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Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by stellar - 20-11-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by -JKP- - 16-12-2016, 04:53 PM
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RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:34 PM
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