Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r
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(29-11-2016, 08:51 AM)stellar wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(29-11-2016, 06:27 AM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Tom, the numbers involved are just too large. A two word sentence will yield 40 000 different translations. If you had to write out all those options at two words per translation, you would have to write 80 000 words. Eighty thousand. That's a large novel. 

Typing out all translations for a three word sentence would require 24 000 000 words. Twenty-four milion, for a three word sentence. 

The King James Authorized Bible has 783,137 words.

So you would need a box full of bibles just to match the amount of words you would have to type to list all possible translations for a mere three Voynich words.
Koen Thanks for your thoughts,

But I don't see it from your perspective.  When I use a Gematria engine it finds a word or phrase number associated with a ciphered word number that I have built, thus eliminating hundreds of thousands of words. So I look backwards and forwards from 200-500 words that equal the same word number from a ciphered word I put in the Gematria Engine.  Then I repeat for the 2nd word which can bring up about the same amount of words from the lists (i.e. 200-500). Then I go about a process of elimination looking for sentence structure with words that fit the model of the sentence or phrase of the whole paragraph.  Sometimes I start in the middle of a sentence of the VMS text with ciphered words I have pulled to look for key meanings, then go backwards or forwards through out the Gematria lists.  I'm finding most of the words in English Gematria.

When you find interrelationships with words from the Gematria lists which build a VMS sentence its not that complicated.  Like when you find the word, "The", that begins at the start of a sentence in most cases or its like a conjunction for emphasis on a noun in a sentence.





For instance the Ros 2 folio I had 19 words to put together and form some coherent logic and it was not that difficult.

Stellar, you have to take ALL possible words in the second position and match them to all possible words in the first position, and so on.


Let's say you find 50 out of 200 words that might make sense in the first position (words like "he", "they", "the", "why", "it", etc.).

Now you go to the second word and you start with "he" for the first word and find 50 words that logically follow "he". But you're not done yet. You have to go back to word number 1 and then take the second possibility, which is "they" and you might find 50 words that can logically follow that one. Now back to the first word, and find all the words that can logically follow "the", and so on for all 50 of the first words.

Even if you eliminate 75% of the 200 because they don't make grammatical sense, you are still looking at 50 x 50 = 2,500 possibilities for the first two words, and 50 x 50 x 50 = 125,000 possible interpretations for the first three words.
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Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by stellar - 20-11-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by -JKP- - 29-11-2016, 11:24 AM
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Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:08 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 02:25 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 03:06 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 04:54 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 05:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 06:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 08:30 AM

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