Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r
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(29-11-2016, 01:04 AM)stellar wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The word, "turn", makes sense to me as it implies turning her obedience from God.  To answer your question straight out Mr. Coon I believe this is how it was encoded for I know the message that I have relayed from the Voyinch or the (Diablo's Logos) is not perfect English, it’s very close.  Also you can encode more information with Gematria, therefore making the entropy look unusually low for a natural language so this would satisfy why the phrases like this, "Now I", are used.  It's really not that tough to rap your head around, why the cipher was made this way! The words and phrases represent numbers from adding up the letter in either Hebrew, English or Simple Pythagorean Gematria.  When you decode with my cipher I recommend just imputing the letters so that all Gematria engines are used.

I see what you mean about the "turn" phrase. Okay, I understand what you're going for there. But then the question pops up: if you are using all three Gematria calculations (Hebrew, English, and Simple), that means each individual Voynich-word has about 200 possibilities: roughly 100 for Hebrew and 100 for English/Simple.

Take the word oocy (#1 in your last image, the spiral). Its gematria values are 503 (Jewish) and 348 (English). Here are the number of words/phrases with those same gematria values:

Words/phrases with Jewish gematria value 503: 101
Words/phrases with English gematria value 348: 99
Total possible ways to translate oocy: at least 200

Does it strike you as odd that in this system, you'd have to consider at least 200 possibilities for every single word? I can imagine the writer sitting and trying to decode what he wrote, and thinking "Which of the 200 possibilities did I mean for this vord here? And then this one. And now this one." 600 possibilities for just 3 words...


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Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by stellar - 20-11-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by ThomasCoon - 29-11-2016, 02:02 AM
Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:05 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 01-01-2017, 04:02 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 02-01-2017, 07:29 PM
Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:08 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 02:25 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 03:06 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 04:54 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 05:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 06:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 08:30 AM

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