02-09-2026, 02:38 AM
I do agree with you that there is a way to look at the rosettes where they are meant in some way to be viewed by the diagonal layout.
I am not yet convinced that the TO map means north, because it is turned in such a way as mid outer Europe, following the Isadore tradition, at least, is pointed at the rest of the rosettes. But, what would be north on an Isadore TO is then pointed to the southwest. Again, on the diagonal. So there is that complication.
I do think the two suns can mean West and East. I actually agree with this on the basis that the rocky portion portrayed that kind of looks like a real map, actually looks to me like a real map of something a little west of something often referred to as west. Anyway, I think we can agree on the possibility of the rest falling into line with north up, and that the bottom corner would be south, for whatever reasons, I am fine with your reasons for thinking so being different than mine if we can agree on the possibility that it should be looked at in more ways than one, to see what else we see.
Insofar as your south symbol in the solomon's seal magic saturn stuff, I have not yet seen other renditions of it, and Ai tells me that there are lost versions of the past, so who knows. I saw something close today, but it seemed to be an astrological symbol that I did not quite understand, it was like yours but no circle on the v tip, next to a virgo, next to others i didn't quite grok either, but it had handwriting below that seemed to write out the glyphs in a more understandable way, where i think it meant caput draconis. I also saw one that was a closed triangle but I don't know if it meant trinity or something else, it had circles and triangles all over the place, plus magic writing and other stuff. Anyway I will try to get somewhere with it, if I can, but the example didn't seem to mean anything in particular, other than related to magic. However, here same as the vms, if you turn it on the diagonal, counterclockwise, it points down.
I am not yet convinced that the TO map means north, because it is turned in such a way as mid outer Europe, following the Isadore tradition, at least, is pointed at the rest of the rosettes. But, what would be north on an Isadore TO is then pointed to the southwest. Again, on the diagonal. So there is that complication.
I do think the two suns can mean West and East. I actually agree with this on the basis that the rocky portion portrayed that kind of looks like a real map, actually looks to me like a real map of something a little west of something often referred to as west. Anyway, I think we can agree on the possibility of the rest falling into line with north up, and that the bottom corner would be south, for whatever reasons, I am fine with your reasons for thinking so being different than mine if we can agree on the possibility that it should be looked at in more ways than one, to see what else we see.
Insofar as your south symbol in the solomon's seal magic saturn stuff, I have not yet seen other renditions of it, and Ai tells me that there are lost versions of the past, so who knows. I saw something close today, but it seemed to be an astrological symbol that I did not quite understand, it was like yours but no circle on the v tip, next to a virgo, next to others i didn't quite grok either, but it had handwriting below that seemed to write out the glyphs in a more understandable way, where i think it meant caput draconis. I also saw one that was a closed triangle but I don't know if it meant trinity or something else, it had circles and triangles all over the place, plus magic writing and other stuff. Anyway I will try to get somewhere with it, if I can, but the example didn't seem to mean anything in particular, other than related to magic. However, here same as the vms, if you turn it on the diagonal, counterclockwise, it points down.
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