You are all actually absolutely right. However, there are two points:
1). No one prevents us from leaving a hint for a complex anagram, such as rearranging a letter in the correct position or leaving certain letters in their original order. Or you can mark them with a null, for example.
2). We don't know yet how much this applies to Voynichese. There's a chance that the author was more creative than us in this regard...
The word chodaiin appears several times in Botany and once in the Zodiac. The letters are aligned correctly from a Voynichese perspective - che at the beginning, iin at the end. However, there's also the word ararchodaiin, which represents the root. There are two options: either the author put arar at the beginning as a hint, or... this is the original form of the anagram, and the author did not change anything (which is also possible, because what Latin word starts with two identical letters?).
In general, problems of this kind can be solved manually. But yes, it is expensive, and if you continuously encrypt some text, it will be faster to simply encrypt it and spread out the nulls.
And, @oshfdk, I apologize for being a very poor anagram solver
Apparently, I'm not paying enough attention. I think you should contact other, more attentive people next time and evaluate their results.
I would like to ask @JoeyB how he deciphered that phrase - intuitively or by directly working with the encrypted text? Maybe I could have made a mistake myself.
1). No one prevents us from leaving a hint for a complex anagram, such as rearranging a letter in the correct position or leaving certain letters in their original order. Or you can mark them with a null, for example.
2). We don't know yet how much this applies to Voynichese. There's a chance that the author was more creative than us in this regard...
The word chodaiin appears several times in Botany and once in the Zodiac. The letters are aligned correctly from a Voynichese perspective - che at the beginning, iin at the end. However, there's also the word ararchodaiin, which represents the root. There are two options: either the author put arar at the beginning as a hint, or... this is the original form of the anagram, and the author did not change anything (which is also possible, because what Latin word starts with two identical letters?).
In general, problems of this kind can be solved manually. But yes, it is expensive, and if you continuously encrypt some text, it will be faster to simply encrypt it and spread out the nulls.
And, @oshfdk, I apologize for being a very poor anagram solver
Apparently, I'm not paying enough attention. I think you should contact other, more attentive people next time and evaluate their results.(20-07-2026, 01:32 PM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Maybe I misunderstood something, but you couldn't decode the message I created using the encoder script, is this correct? Which means the cipher simply doesn't work?Maybe... Anyway, the code was generated by a neural network, so it's quite expected. Or, again, I'm just being careless...
I would like to ask @JoeyB how he deciphered that phrase - intuitively or by directly working with the encrypted text? Maybe I could have made a mistake myself.