Voynich Welsh Numerology
(18-11-2016, 05:03 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Two crosses? One of those crosses is on a crown. That's how crowns were designed. If you want to represent a specific person, like the emperor or empress, you have to draw the crown a certain way. It may not have anything whatsoever to do with Christianity as far as the person who drew it was concerned.

Stellar, I don't think I'm going to bother with your posts any more.

Here is why:

Assumption #1: You say Dee did it, even though he was born a century after the probable creation of the manuscript and his hand does not match well to the VMS hand.
Assumption #2: It is numerology (you still haven't shown any proof, only loose "translations" that could be done in any language).
Assumption #3: Even if it is numerology, you have arbitrarily assigned values to the VMS characters. No proof that they are the correct assignations.
Assumption #4: It is Welsh. No proof of this either. In fact, Thomas got more "hits" when using a different language.
Assumption #5: The text matches the images. No one has any proof of this. Your interpretations of the text are based on your assumptions about the images which, in themselves, are open to question. There's no proof or even strong evidence that the big plant with the serpentine creature in the root is the story of Eden. It might be a worm rather than a snake.
Assumption #5: The manuscript has a Christian side. Very flimsy evidence. Crosses were used in non-Christian imagery as well, and also by non-Christians living in Christian societies where the cross was a prevalent icon. The pool creature doesn't look like a whale and the nymph doesn't look like Jonah. It might be a biblical story but there are good arguments from other researchers that it might something else which I suggested you read, but apparently you didn't.

And there are more, but there are already too many assumptions to take any of this seriously, since all you do is defend your assumptions by adding more, rather than re-evaluating them.

Say what you like, but I highly disagree with #3
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JKP, 
Thomas Coon malformed the word RAM in German to make a fit and Virgo does not fit.  So he still has to prove to me he can create a Zodiac using European languages.  As for Chinese lol if the VMS is in Chinese than you people here really have to prove that one.  Using Chinese was a cheap shot.

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Coon writes>"Thanks for the questions, Stellar. As for Chinese, I agree with Witchmountain: the Romans themselves had contact with the Chinese, so Chinese being written in a Latin character set isn't problematic. As for a source for "Witern" - before the 1700s-1800s, German didn't have a standard spelling - and in the 1400s, it was a total free-for-all. The word "Widdern" could've been written "Wittern" "Widderen" "Witern" "Witteren" "witeren" etc. Therefore it is not in a modern dictionary."


And Thomas did this to Virgo in German:

Jungefrou in not a German word:
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All these astronomy words relate to the images and so therefore logic states a code.
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On a lighter note here is the spiritual side of the VMS.

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Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 20-09-2016, 03:29 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by julian - 20-09-2016, 09:50 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 20-09-2016, 11:31 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 21-09-2016, 04:01 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by farmerjohn - 21-09-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 21-09-2016, 04:25 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 21-09-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 21-09-2016, 07:23 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 21-09-2016, 10:35 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 22-09-2016, 01:42 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 22-09-2016, 01:49 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 22-09-2016, 03:02 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 28-10-2016, 11:46 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 24-09-2016, 08:42 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 24-09-2016, 11:00 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 25-09-2016, 04:39 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Anton - 20-11-2016, 11:15 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 21-11-2016, 12:04 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Koen G - 21-11-2016, 05:45 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 21-11-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Koen G - 21-11-2016, 09:07 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 21-11-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Anton - 21-11-2016, 08:46 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by ReneZ - 21-11-2016, 09:16 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by davidjackson - 21-11-2016, 09:16 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Anton - 21-11-2016, 10:14 PM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 22-11-2016, 12:05 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Anton - 22-11-2016, 01:46 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by ThomasCoon - 22-11-2016, 03:17 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Anton - 23-11-2016, 12:41 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by stellar - 23-11-2016, 01:01 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by -JKP- - 23-11-2016, 02:14 AM
RE: Voynich Welsh Numerology - by Anton - 23-11-2016, 01:16 AM
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RE: The percentages - by -JKP- - 28-10-2016, 12:21 AM
RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 28-10-2016, 02:28 AM
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RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 29-10-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: The percentages - by stellar - 29-10-2016, 07:31 PM
RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 30-10-2016, 02:52 AM
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RE: The percentages - by Anton - 30-10-2016, 11:59 PM
RE: The percentages - by -JKP- - 31-10-2016, 12:03 AM
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RE: The percentages - by Anton - 31-10-2016, 12:17 AM
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RE: The percentages - by Anton - 31-10-2016, 12:40 AM
RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 31-10-2016, 02:34 AM
RE: The percentages - by Koen G - 31-10-2016, 02:39 AM
RE: The percentages - by stellar - 31-10-2016, 02:48 AM
RE: The percentages - by Koen G - 31-10-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 07-11-2016, 03:59 PM
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RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 08-11-2016, 01:27 AM
RE: The percentages - by Witch Mountain - 08-11-2016, 01:28 AM
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RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 08-11-2016, 02:48 AM
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RE: The percentages - by Witch Mountain - 08-11-2016, 04:25 PM
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RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 08-11-2016, 04:45 PM
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RE: The percentages - by Witch Mountain - 08-11-2016, 04:48 PM
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RE: The percentages - by Witch Mountain - 08-11-2016, 05:04 PM
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RE: The percentages - by -JKP- - 08-11-2016, 08:40 PM
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RE: The percentages - by -JKP- - 10-11-2016, 02:44 AM
RE: The percentages - by Witch Mountain - 10-11-2016, 03:10 AM
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RE: The percentages - by -JKP- - 10-11-2016, 04:33 AM
RE: The percentages - by ThomasCoon - 10-11-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: f49r Eve and the Serpent in the Garden - by stellar - 18-11-2016, 06:32 AM
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RE: f1r 1st Paragraph GENESIS - by -JKP- - 19-11-2016, 01:30 AM
RE: f1r 1st Paragraph GENESIS - by Witch Mountain - 19-11-2016, 02:07 AM
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RE: f1r 1st Paragraph GENESIS - by -JKP- - 19-11-2016, 02:58 AM
RE: f1r 1st Paragraph GENESIS - by VViews - 19-11-2016, 03:40 AM
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