(08-07-2026, 03:40 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.We can also have categories that are tracked, but not added to the score. I would prefer a left/right binary, but maybe keep it out of the average. Same for finger pointing: let's track this in case it turns out to be relevant, but no need to add it to the total since we're uncertain.
Items: either way this needs to be redone. Since we don't know if the exemplar had no item, a single flower or a star, those need to be at the same level.
So would you split it? star present yes/no and a separate category "single flower or no item". We definitely need something that penalizes Virgos with rods, scales and an an entire garden worth of herbs in their hands.
About the hand posture, we can say that it is definitely not on her hip, this needs to be accounted for. Virgos with the hands oriented the correct way but one hand almost behind the body are not very similar to this one. So to be somewhat close to the Virgo's pose, the hand closest to the viewer needs to point somewhat forward and may not be behind the body.
That's a good idea. I added a section to the right to track stuff and have them not affect the averages (for the time being).
For holding item, we could take the current category and knock it down a tier?
Instead of
holding nothing - holding spica, feather, or man-made object - holding flower - holding star
we can knock them all down a tier and tweak it slightly:
holding any non-star/flower object - holding nothing OR holding single flower - holding star
No matter what, it looks like the VMS virgo is holding something on a string/ single "stem", at least to my eyes. And perhaps the VMS virgo is holding nothing, but when connecting the star they decided to connect it from the hand, perhaps similar to flower examples he had seen. The above devalues examples holding completely unrelated things, and puts holding a single flower (plausible-ish) and holding nothing on the same tier. Holding a star would of course be a full score.
If we come across a virgo with a star unconnected above the hands, we can worry then about how it should be scored?