07-07-2026, 05:46 PM
(07-07-2026, 04:00 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hair: maybe hair done up vs down? "Short" was a bad description since hair done up may still be very long. But a maiden with her long hair flowing vs one with her hair done up is different. So if our category is "hair done up", we all know what we're after, which is the typical "buns" (your partner drew the back bun quite well). In the examples in your previous post, 2 and 3 have buns (and a headband), 1 and 4 have not.
I was happy with "short hair" just meaning "not flowing, not loose, done up". If it's kinda unclear for an example, we can go in the middle or discuss here? Unless we are thinking the VMS virgo definitely has side buns -princess leia style- i'm not sure we should start comparing done-up hairstyles. As you say, I think we know roughly what we're looking for. So:
hair down (flowing) / Unsure or in the middle / hair up (or short)
The hat is fine like that too. I think we'll know when we see a hat that is a good score.
no headgear or vastly different style / band-style headgear / "hat that looks like VMS hat that probably has a name"
I would say that the meadow/terrain in that setup is fine. However, if flowered meadows (or a single flower) appear to be quite rare, I think we can change it later to seperate out the better examples. So:
no terrain / on terrain / meadow with flower(s)
And for the clothing, shouldn't there be a "no clothing" option? That way we can test for blue and also test for the clothes in the first place. I know that it sounds weird that other colours of clothing might be given a 0.5 score, but I really think it will sort the entries better than a binary.
For example, in a situation with 3 entries, entry 1 with a red flowing dress, and entry 2 with a blue shirt, entry 3 with no clothes:
1 binary (blueish clothing yes/no)
Entry 1 = 0
Entry 2 = 1
Entry 3 = 0
2 binaries (clothing yes/no, blueish clothing yes/no)
Entry 1 - 1 + 0 = 1
Entry 2 - 1 + 1 = 2
Entry 3 - 0 + 0 = 0
And the mixed question (no clothing, clothing, blue clothing)
Entry 1 = 0.5
Entry 2 = 1
Entry 3 = 0
The 2nd and 3rd option both seperate out the less desireable unclothed entries, but the 3rd allows us to take otherwise good entries and place them neatly below the blue-clothed entries. The 1st option does not discriminate between no clothes and clothes, and the 2nd option will lead to messier data that's harder to track.
So, imo:
no clothing / clothing / blue clothing
For clarity, with the "both hands pointing forward", what counts as "pointing"? For example, do these count?:
(07-07-2026, 04:00 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What we're still missing is anything that addresses the extra lines at neck and wrist. At the wrist line we're obviously looking at a separate piece of clothing, but the neck line could be trim on the same garment.
Oh. I've been interpreting it as this.. now I don't know


). In the examples in your previous post, 2 and 3 have buns (and a headband), 1 and 4 have not.![[+]](https://www.voynich.ninja/images/collapse_collapsed.png)