30-05-2026, 07:38 AM
(29-05-2026, 09:17 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(29-05-2026, 08:27 PM)Linda wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is interesting that all the miniatures, and also the Trotula example, show tubs made of wood, and all have vertical lines delineating the slats of wood, held together by various means. Although a few in the vms could be said to be like this, others are clearly different.
Indeed.
But the nature of the individual tubs in the Zodiac seem to be fundamentally different from that of the communal tubs in Bio, on f78v-f81r (which is a single illustration) and f81v.
I have my theory about the former, but I am not allowed to mention it here. Suffices to say that, while they still may have been "inspired" on other books, they were not meant to exist, and were added to the first few diagrams as an afterthought and by accident.
As for the latter, they look like they are made of masonry and fixed to the floor; even with a narrow baseboard or molding around the bottom edge, and clay-like pipe connectors at the top and bottom. The big tub on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. seems to have a hollow space under the tub's proper, presumably for heating the water by fire.
In the Bio section there are also many individual tubs, but they too seem to be fundamentally different from the two categories above. I don't see how one can dismiss the old theory that they are thinly disguised depiction of human body organs.
And then there are many other communal pools that are depicted as being dug into the floor. Possibly natural, given their irregular edges.
I suppose that we can find similes to all three classes of Bio tubs in the Balneis and maybe other books. Isn't that so?
Are there any examples of ladies in tubs in any Zodiac-related text?
All the best, --stolfi
I understand your question, but again I have to return to the topic of this thread in this thread and that is the hypothesis that VM is the book of Enoch. No baths, balneotherapy, herbs, recipes, female organs, blood vessels, etc. It is unnecessary to discuss baths here as water containers. As I mentioned in the examples, either it is a pedestal representing sheol (hell). Or it is a container in which the Virgin Mary sits and water flows from it as a source of grace and healing. Large pools depict, for example, the lower and upper waters underground and above the firmament.

