27-05-2026, 11:28 AM
(26-05-2026, 06:25 PM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
One may argue whether the Pisces page has 29, 30, or 31 "things" (depending on whether one counts nymphs, labels, or stars, respectively). But all the other surviving diagrams have 30 "things" (or 15, in each half of Aries and Taurus).[..]
One may, yes
. I asked Diane O‘D. that before; she did not bother to answer, but picked a year-old comment of mine, which was already discussed, and ranted about it,
so I ask it here again:
What are the relevant elements to count within the „Zodiacs“ circles?
If I count the ladies and their tubs, I come to 29 in the „pisces“ drawing.
Counting the stars there (all!), I come to 31.
Nothing of „30“ within this very first „month“, and for „Aries“ and „Taurus“ it continues just with 15+15, 15+15.
How is that a valid beginning for some 30 days/month-and-some-rest calendar?
(27-05-2026, 09:44 AM)Radim Dobeš wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]Orthodox iconography never depicts historical events in isolation, but always connects them with the prophecy of the coming of the Savior.
Maybe. But you compare here with icons that are surely even 400 years younger than the VMS. This is not validating anything. You could use later works maybe as a proof for a continuing tradition (for example something shown still in 19th century as in 15th century), but not as any „inspiration“ for VMS.
Your icons here show clearly St.Mary and Jesus sitting in a well (aka being a well), but not one figure of VMS looks even distantly like that.
By the way: orthodox (russian, coptic, greek) are heavily loaded with religious signs of all calibers. You can easily find crosses, symbols, Halos, angels‘ wings, religious characters even within such strange and foreign manuscripts like the ethiopians.
VMS shows just 1 „genuine“ cross and nothing of the rest.
(27-05-2026, 09:44 AM)Radim Dobeš wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The author of VMS hid the baby Jesus behind the edge of the container.
Oh come on…

