A family of grammars for Voynichese
(28-02-2026, 07:40 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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(27-02-2026, 06:53 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I only became convinced that many final ir (note, not just any final r) are scribal errors for iin
If this is true, I would expect the ratio of occurrences of a word written with final -iin vs. the occurrences of the same word but written with -ir to be more or less constant (this assumes a simple model in which the scribe randomly miswrites an -iin as -ir with some probability). Did you check that?

Here are the frequencies of the "coda" elements of my model, as of last week:

    113.500000  0.00091 {n}     868.250000  0.00697 {m} 
   1665.500000  0.01336 {in}     40.000000  0.00032 {im} 
   3779.000000  0.03032 {iin}    15.000000  0.00012 {iim}
    159.000000  0.00128 {iiin}    1.0       0.00001 {iiim}
     
    487.750000  0.00391 {ir}
    130.500000  0.00105 {iir}
      1.0       0.00001 {iiir}

In the n series the most frequent is {iin}, whereas in the r series the most frequent is {ir}. The ratio {ir}:{iir} = ~3.7 matches neither {iin}:{iiin} = 23.6 nor {in}:{iin} = 0.44, but at least is greater than 1, like the former.

All the best, --stolfi

Not exactly the kind of test I had in mind. I made a quick check (very quick, so excuse me if I made mistakes, and with the limit that it refers to the whole text of the VMS), with the occurrences of the 8 most frequent words which end in 'aiin' vs. the corresponding 'air' word.

daiin vs. dair = 834/109 = 7.65
aiin vs. air = 529/78 = 6.78
qokaiin vs. qokair = 259/21 = 12.33
okaiin vs. okair = 152/25 = 6.08
saiin vs. sair = 129/26 = 4.96
qotaiin vs. qotair = 83/5 = 16.6
kaiin vs. kair = 63/16 = 3.93

They look to me a bit too much spreaded out to support the hypothesis that 'iin' is randomly replaced by 'ir' with some probability (but I ran no statistical tests)
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A family of grammars for Voynichese - by Mauro - 27-11-2024, 04:19 PM
On the "ir" codas - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-02-2026, 01:26 PM
RE: On the "ir" codas - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-02-2026, 01:57 PM
RE: A family of grammars for Voynichese - by Mauro - 28-02-2026, 01:44 PM

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