(29-01-2026, 09:34 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(29-01-2026, 09:25 PM)DG97EEB wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Doesn't it feel like we're getting to a place though that if it weren't for the text itself, this would really be a run of the mill zibaldone/hausbuch or am I oversimplifying?
We have some idea of the kinds of sources that were probably used, but we still have no idea about what it did with those sources.
The difference now is that we suddenly have a potential source that's an early 1430's autograph by an Italian renaissance man. That's a step up from "this image of a lady with a cane must have come from the amorphous pool of imagery that circulated in a broad area".
We still don't know what it did with those images. My current early hypothesis is that the VM makers had concepts of a plan, and for that required (or had) a source with illustrations of all kinds of water works. Possibly this very book. They integrated material from that into their new composition - of which we still don't know the purpose.
Since things like Hausbuchs and moralizing works were about as common as it gets, I don't see a problem in a combination of sources.
I get that, and everything is always obvious in retrospect, but I don't think we're fundamentally disagreeing, but it's easy to agree with the current state of evidence..and the ease with which that evidence is now available...that's the big difference really.. as more and more catalogues become digitised, narrowing the field ought to be easier and easier... We live in amazing times..