A family of grammars for Voynichese
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(24-12-2025, 05:04 PM)DG97EEB wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If you push ChatGPT and Gemini to describe the grammar, they both independently come up with a slot grammar.. unclear whether their training data is the same and this idea is therefore extant or whether genuinely coming up with this. The conclusion in both cases is that same: that Voynich cannot be translated but only decoded as it's fundamentally procedural and not for example compressed Latin which can be uncompressed. I have dozens of different statistical tests both in and out of chat models, and frankly it feels plausible but I wouldn't put my name behind it just yet.

Several slot models for Voynichese "words" have been published in the last 50 years, so those LLMs may be just picking those up. And not showing due credit, of course.

The "conclusion" is reasonable only if you assume that the language is "European" and that each word in its "standard" spelling is written as one Voynichese "word".  

But there are hundreds of languages, spoken by billions of people, where each word is just one syllable long; and syllables do have a rigid slot structure, like that seen in Voynichese "words".  

Even if the language is "European", maybe the Author chose to write each syllable as a separate Voynichese "word", with double space between original words.  Like "ha be mus   pa pam   et   ma mam".  Then the same observation above would apply.   

Unfortunately all available VMS transcription have only one code for "word space", irrespective of its length...

All the best, --stolfi
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A family of grammars for Voynichese - by Mauro - 27-11-2024, 04:19 PM
RE: A family of grammars for Voynichese - by Jorge_Stolfi - 24-12-2025, 05:31 PM
On the "ir" codas - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-02-2026, 01:26 PM
RE: On the "ir" codas - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-02-2026, 01:57 PM

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