Hmm tried to edit my post about the Order of the Fleece above but the updated imagery is not showing.
This rendition of the Order of the Golden Fleece would likely be the closest to the carbon dating, and most likely the version that would be drawn if the vms was made close to this date, and if this has anything to do with it. Hmm. Possibly some artistic licence in turning the head as the Philip the Good paintings have him facing the other way, and the head there is is facing forward, not outward as it is here.
This was painted between 1428 and 1441, they say 1435.
It has the head full on with two curly horns, with a very skinny gathering, unlike the one i posted earlier.
![[Image: Jan_van_Eyck_%28um_1390-1400_-_1441%29_-...alerie.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Jan_van_Eyck_%28um_1390-1400_-_1441%29_-_Baudouin_de_Lannoy_-_525G_-_Gem%C3%A4ldegalerie.jpg)
These are evidently all copies of a painting of Philip the Good after one done around 1450 which was since lost.
![[Image: 960px-Weyden%2C_Rogier_van_der%2C_D%27ap...MI_818.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Weyden%2C_Rogier_van_der%2C_D%27apr%C3%A8s_-_Portrait_de_Philippe_le_Bon_%281396-1467%29%2C_duc_de_Bourgogne%2C_MI_818.jpg/960px-Weyden%2C_Rogier_van_der%2C_D%27apr%C3%A8s_-_Portrait_de_Philippe_le_Bon_%281396-1467%29%2C_duc_de_Bourgogne%2C_MI_818.jpg)
![[Image: x068863-image_card.jpg]](https://friedlander.kikirpa.be/storage/media/8846/conversions/x068863-image_card.jpg)
![[Image: 960px-Philip_the_good.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Philip_the_good.jpg/960px-Philip_the_good.jpg)
There are more but for the most part they match these and the one in the earlier painting above.
This rendition of the Order of the Golden Fleece would likely be the closest to the carbon dating, and most likely the version that would be drawn if the vms was made close to this date, and if this has anything to do with it. Hmm. Possibly some artistic licence in turning the head as the Philip the Good paintings have him facing the other way, and the head there is is facing forward, not outward as it is here.
This was painted between 1428 and 1441, they say 1435.
It has the head full on with two curly horns, with a very skinny gathering, unlike the one i posted earlier.
![[Image: Jan_van_Eyck_%28um_1390-1400_-_1441%29_-...alerie.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Jan_van_Eyck_%28um_1390-1400_-_1441%29_-_Baudouin_de_Lannoy_-_525G_-_Gem%C3%A4ldegalerie.jpg)
These are evidently all copies of a painting of Philip the Good after one done around 1450 which was since lost.
![[Image: x068863-image_card.jpg]](https://friedlander.kikirpa.be/storage/media/8846/conversions/x068863-image_card.jpg)
There are more but for the most part they match these and the one in the earlier painting above.

