06-09-2025, 02:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-09-2025, 02:20 PM by eleonoramatarrese.)
Hi Rafal, nice to meet you.
I do not like forums since usually people are not polite and pretend a lot. This said, thanks for your post.
You simply copied and paste a transliteration I published on my Facebook account, protected by copyright (this means according to the Italian and international law it can be posted mentioning ISBN or where you find it, i.e. link, author, title of the work, etc.).
Two pages are not the full work.
Anyway, just two considerations:
1. I have transliterated and translated the whole codex, and a folio isn't the whole codex.
2. Germanic is a reconstructed language on the basis of the so-called "daughter languages", which are similar yet very different. The language of the codex is old, this means in order to be understood, it *has* to be compared to existing languages.
a) there is no dictionary available;
b) if you know how to compare languages and how to convey meanings in philology you know how to go back up to original meanings and to a discourse/text that makes sense.
Naturally, when a language is reconstructed this means it has been reconstructed *by man* and consequently unless you find proper textual evidence (also in art inscriptions, not only in "readable" texts), you should proceed through comparative philology.
Please correct me if I'm wrong: I don't think anyone has yet transliterated and translated more than a few scattered words and perhaps a few sentences that don't actually make sense. Moreover, providing a complete list of characters, that is a sort of alphabet (with Tironian notes and ligatures it is not academically correct to speak of an "alphabet" tout court).
In my last publication you will find the first folio, the calendar until May, folio 57v, folio 116v, and part of the cosmological treatise, almost fully transliterated and translated, with philological analysis provided for every context. This means that words are considered not on their own, but in the sentence, in the paragraph, in the context, as well as pairing with iconographical analysis.
My work is available for free, although it has been published and it has ISBN and is protected by law.
I forgot to say there is other manuscripts with the Voynich main script, at least six characters/ligatures/digraphs, and they are mentioned and compared.
I haven't published all the photos I've been making in the last years throughout Europe and churches, museums, libraries etc., however most of links where evidence is available online are provided.
Thanks for reading me.
Regards,
Eleonora
p.s. it seems I can't upload my file here, so here is a Facebook public link: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I do not like forums since usually people are not polite and pretend a lot. This said, thanks for your post.
You simply copied and paste a transliteration I published on my Facebook account, protected by copyright (this means according to the Italian and international law it can be posted mentioning ISBN or where you find it, i.e. link, author, title of the work, etc.).
Two pages are not the full work.
Anyway, just two considerations:
1. I have transliterated and translated the whole codex, and a folio isn't the whole codex.
2. Germanic is a reconstructed language on the basis of the so-called "daughter languages", which are similar yet very different. The language of the codex is old, this means in order to be understood, it *has* to be compared to existing languages.
a) there is no dictionary available;
b) if you know how to compare languages and how to convey meanings in philology you know how to go back up to original meanings and to a discourse/text that makes sense.
Naturally, when a language is reconstructed this means it has been reconstructed *by man* and consequently unless you find proper textual evidence (also in art inscriptions, not only in "readable" texts), you should proceed through comparative philology.
Please correct me if I'm wrong: I don't think anyone has yet transliterated and translated more than a few scattered words and perhaps a few sentences that don't actually make sense. Moreover, providing a complete list of characters, that is a sort of alphabet (with Tironian notes and ligatures it is not academically correct to speak of an "alphabet" tout court).
In my last publication you will find the first folio, the calendar until May, folio 57v, folio 116v, and part of the cosmological treatise, almost fully transliterated and translated, with philological analysis provided for every context. This means that words are considered not on their own, but in the sentence, in the paragraph, in the context, as well as pairing with iconographical analysis.
My work is available for free, although it has been published and it has ISBN and is protected by law.
I forgot to say there is other manuscripts with the Voynich main script, at least six characters/ligatures/digraphs, and they are mentioned and compared.
I haven't published all the photos I've been making in the last years throughout Europe and churches, museums, libraries etc., however most of links where evidence is available online are provided.
Thanks for reading me.
Regards,
Eleonora
p.s. it seems I can't upload my file here, so here is a Facebook public link: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.