An attempt at extracting grammar from vord order statistics.
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(20-05-2025, 03:45 PM)Rafal wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My few thoughts about these results.

They seems solid and rational. But they definitely need some filtering for interesting stuff and interpretation.
In the past we have seen similar statistics with some words going together or making some clusters. But nobody made a step further - giving these results some meaning.

Will you be that guy Davidd?  Wink

I tried to look for previous similar work but the information about actual work is very disorganised.
What is currently easy to find is a list of wrong solutions.
letter frequency and vord frequency is done by voynichese.com
some background info is on voynich.nu

If i had know that similar work had been done on Quires 13 and 20, i would have pushed publishing a little back probably.

todo:
improve images/output
I intend to clean up the results, and do some chi square on the grammar.
make a score function
finding out how many groups/clusters i would need
compare grammars of different scribes, quires, sections.
test grammars with all vords, including singlets.
extend vordscore to include 2 vords before and 2 vords after instead of just the ones right beside it.
extend groupscore to include measuring vords that are not labeled as belonging to one of the groups (the less frequent vords)
refactor the code into more classes to make it more readable.
make the reports in html or phpbb for easier sharing.

possibly: test grammar findings against other 15th c texts in known languages.
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RE: An attempt at extracting grammar from vord order statistics. - by davidd - 20-05-2025, 06:16 PM

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