Solutions [discussion thread - moved]

[ReneZ]

The solutions cover a lot of ground , are there any specific criteria , that are needed  for a concept to become a solution ?

I think there is a bit of a terminology problem here, similarly to the term 'cipher' which may be interpreted by different people in different ways.

At the very top has to be 'the accepted solution', just like the ones for Linear B and the more recent You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
This is always obviously correct. It presents the translation.
We do not have it yet.

I do not think that any of the items on Tavi's list presents a translation of any significant part of the text, but I did not check at all.
A few past solution proposals did include translation of a very singificant amount of the text, foremost probably John Stojko's, but since the vast majority of people here will not have heard of it, it is also obviously not the accepted solution.

I just want to see someone coming with a translation like (for example):
'Here begins the book of master Ulrich ...'
Then we are talking.

Of course it is possible to discuss interesting discoveries (there have been few) that are not solutions.

Most of the proposed solutions are not solutions at all. They can be hypotheses, or tentative solution approaches.
A good example is the recent proposed solution where a paper was announced, and the post said that four pages were translated, but help is needed for the rest.
If you have the real solution, you can translate the text. If you are convinced that you are right, you will do it.
Saying that you do not want to continue after four pages is like an admission of defeat.
I have seen several cases like this, and in some cases the solver was looking for funding to do the remainder. Then it becomes even more suspicious....

In case a propsoed solution includes that the text is not meaningful, it becomes much more difficult, and a proof seems virtually impossible.

I think it is not helpful to set the bar too low.
Clearly, all entries on Tavi's list fail to meet any criterium to qualify as 'the solution'.