17-04-2025, 06:42 PM
About "convincing matching" of medieval art something in general:
most drawings and paintings do not care very much about proportions, dimensions and perspectives.
Expecting realistic or even fotorealistic pictures is a high demand which medieval artists rarely could deliver or were ordered to.
Some members here expect the, for that time, usual amount of symbols and typical details and therefore interpret every little side scribble, but VMS seems not to observe very much standards and conventions of artworks and is (for my impression) nearly free of symbolic contents.
One "common ground" is covered by the manuscript:
if something is more important than any surroundings, these main things sometimes are enlarged, moved into foreground etc., sometimes even looking bizarre.
All those parts who are unimportant get shrinked and/or moved aside, a bit mistreated, countings and details do not matter very much when they are not relevant for the highlights.
So there is nearly no chance to find all one is awaiting from a picture today: they just cared for other things than full accuracy.
VMS shows some good examples for this, just like this one here:
![[Image: IMG_1159.jpg?etag=W%2F%22f72de-6801376e%...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1159.jpg?etag=W%2F%22f72de-6801376e%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=1500,647&quality=85)
This bathtub has of course not a row of windows down under waterline.
These pregnant ladies are "bathing" behind this window wall, artist shrinked it in his drawing to show what is going on there.
Quite typical.
He even used that curve to let his manuevre disappear a bit.
As for window walls:
this is, again, at Mangup, near maingate, lower than the fortress is located.
I really would like to know if there is enough space in this room for a bigger bathtub.
Will do next days something in a separate thread about folios that may correlate with Mangup (apart from the map)
most drawings and paintings do not care very much about proportions, dimensions and perspectives.
Expecting realistic or even fotorealistic pictures is a high demand which medieval artists rarely could deliver or were ordered to.
Some members here expect the, for that time, usual amount of symbols and typical details and therefore interpret every little side scribble, but VMS seems not to observe very much standards and conventions of artworks and is (for my impression) nearly free of symbolic contents.
One "common ground" is covered by the manuscript:
if something is more important than any surroundings, these main things sometimes are enlarged, moved into foreground etc., sometimes even looking bizarre.
All those parts who are unimportant get shrinked and/or moved aside, a bit mistreated, countings and details do not matter very much when they are not relevant for the highlights.
So there is nearly no chance to find all one is awaiting from a picture today: they just cared for other things than full accuracy.
VMS shows some good examples for this, just like this one here:
![[Image: IMG_1159.jpg?etag=W%2F%22f72de-6801376e%...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1159.jpg?etag=W%2F%22f72de-6801376e%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=1500,647&quality=85)
This bathtub has of course not a row of windows down under waterline.
These pregnant ladies are "bathing" behind this window wall, artist shrinked it in his drawing to show what is going on there.
Quite typical.
He even used that curve to let his manuevre disappear a bit.
As for window walls:
this is, again, at Mangup, near maingate, lower than the fortress is located.
I really would like to know if there is enough space in this room for a bigger bathtub.
Will do next days something in a separate thread about folios that may correlate with Mangup (apart from the map)

