16-04-2025, 01:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-04-2025, 08:13 PM by Stefan Wirtz_2.)
About the identification of Mangup and the tents some more details.
This is the best view onto the element southwest of the fortress I could find:
![[Image: IMG_1147.jpg?etag=%22163b54-67ffa112%22&...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1147.jpg?etag=%22163b54-67ffa112%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=2000,850&quality=85)
There seems to be huge boulder and more broken off the cliff long time ago. If long enough, this could be mapped in VMS; the marks of break point at slope remind of VMS's connections between round element and cliff side.
Sorry for resolution, better look it up here by yourselves:
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Those pointy things that appear like a small repeat of whole fortress are belonging to the "little fifth finger" at East, the "spikes" are shown better here:
![[Image: IMG_1154.jpg?etag=W%2F%221fd5bf-67ffa2ca...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1154.jpg?etag=W%2F%221fd5bf-67ffa2ca%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=2000,918&quality=85)
![[Image: IMG_1151.jpg?etag=%221cd4a5-67ffa113%22&...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1151.jpg?etag=%221cd4a5-67ffa113%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=1500,917&quality=85)
In case somebody is doubting the tents in map: I did not explicitly call them Yurtes, even though mongolians are using them. Krimtatarians are not 1:1 equivalent with Mongols and are using (some styled) tents too.
Tents are no rocket science, basically some cloth, ropes and stakes. Design, colouring and roping them down are personal taste...
In VMS, even the smokehole and underconstruction is visible (from above), as an example here in a Yurt:
The Map is just a map.
Like all maps, it was made to show things, not to hide things, this is not Hogwarts.
Problem was to find the things it shows. Took a while, obviously.
This is the best view onto the element southwest of the fortress I could find:
![[Image: IMG_1147.jpg?etag=%22163b54-67ffa112%22&...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1147.jpg?etag=%22163b54-67ffa112%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=2000,850&quality=85)
There seems to be huge boulder and more broken off the cliff long time ago. If long enough, this could be mapped in VMS; the marks of break point at slope remind of VMS's connections between round element and cliff side.
Sorry for resolution, better look it up here by yourselves:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Those pointy things that appear like a small repeat of whole fortress are belonging to the "little fifth finger" at East, the "spikes" are shown better here:
![[Image: IMG_1154.jpg?etag=W%2F%221fd5bf-67ffa2ca...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1154.jpg?etag=W%2F%221fd5bf-67ffa2ca%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=2000,918&quality=85)
![[Image: IMG_1151.jpg?etag=%221cd4a5-67ffa113%22&...quality=85]](https://impro.usercontent.one/appid/oneComWsb/domain/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/media/bahnstadt-braunschweig.de/onewebmedia/IMG_1151.jpg?etag=%221cd4a5-67ffa113%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=1500,917&quality=85)
In case somebody is doubting the tents in map: I did not explicitly call them Yurtes, even though mongolians are using them. Krimtatarians are not 1:1 equivalent with Mongols and are using (some styled) tents too.
Tents are no rocket science, basically some cloth, ropes and stakes. Design, colouring and roping them down are personal taste...
In VMS, even the smokehole and underconstruction is visible (from above), as an example here in a Yurt:
The Map is just a map.
Like all maps, it was made to show things, not to hide things, this is not Hogwarts.
Problem was to find the things it shows. Took a while, obviously.

