A Cipher Thought Experiment
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(23-03-2025, 11:25 AM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I see. There is a clever use of a binary state, alternating between copy mode and a simple letter substitution mode, that resets to copy mode at each word start and after "/", and switches to the simple substitution mode after any bigram substitution.

Also some typos, for example:

KLRO/SSNO/KLOR (clessical) should be KLRLO/SSNO/KLOR (classical)
MT/ORNO/K (thoric) should be LT/ORNO/K (doric)
NO/ONRO/K (ionec) should be NO/ONRNO/K (ionic)

Claude AI was struggling with these too, because I was asking it to write code to decode the ciphertext instead of letting it decode it directly. But I sort of cheated in the end, after identifying about 80% of the plaintext letters, I just switched to ChatGPT and asked it "to restore this partially scrambled text" and this is how I got the final results. This last part I could also do by hand, because it's quite easy to reKonstruKt an EnglNOsh tMOxt wNOth 20% of lMOttMOrs mNOssNOng. 

I have to say the AI was especially helpful in the beginning where I had to run all experiments for three potential plaintext languages. I basically told it to run various statistics for prefixes/suffixes and repeated substrings and try to interpret them separately for each of English, Latin and Ancient Greek. I think if manually decoding this would have been the most tedious part, which would take a whole day at the very least, even for someone familiar with all three languages, instead of 40-50 minutes (of which I actually was engaged for maybe 15 minutes, just working on other things for the rest of the time, waiting for Claude to complete each task).
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A Cipher Thought Experiment - by trajan117 - 21-03-2025, 02:37 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 21-03-2025, 10:11 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by trajan117 - 21-03-2025, 01:49 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 21-03-2025, 11:08 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 21-03-2025, 10:18 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by Rafal - 21-03-2025, 12:51 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by RobGea - 21-03-2025, 01:01 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by Koen G - 21-03-2025, 01:26 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 21-03-2025, 02:10 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by trajan117 - 21-03-2025, 07:03 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by Koen G - 21-03-2025, 09:21 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 21-03-2025, 10:52 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by trajan117 - 21-03-2025, 06:02 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 22-03-2025, 12:09 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 22-03-2025, 12:30 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 22-03-2025, 04:50 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 22-03-2025, 04:52 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 22-03-2025, 04:56 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 23-03-2025, 06:21 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by RobGea - 22-03-2025, 06:10 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by asteckley - 22-03-2025, 11:12 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 23-03-2025, 11:17 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 23-03-2025, 11:25 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 23-03-2025, 11:45 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 23-03-2025, 11:49 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 23-03-2025, 01:59 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by asteckley - 23-03-2025, 03:41 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 23-03-2025, 04:01 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by asteckley - 23-03-2025, 04:16 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 23-03-2025, 03:50 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by ReneZ - 23-03-2025, 12:02 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 23-03-2025, 07:43 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 24-03-2025, 10:14 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 24-03-2025, 10:33 AM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by Ruby Novacna - 24-03-2025, 12:15 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by nablator - 24-03-2025, 12:36 PM
RE: A Cipher Thought Experiment - by oshfdk - 24-03-2025, 11:26 AM

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