09-05-2024, 09:01 PM
* Some Currier B plants' roots appear again in the Pharma section, notably You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and f48v. Remarkably, these are by scribe 5, and don't have the strongest beta features (atypical ones). I think it may be possible that (some of?) scribe 2's folios were originally the last plant pages in the MS. Scribe 5's folios almost certainly not, unless the artist of f48 stole his roots from the Pharma section.
I just re-read your post and realized you point to another bridge between scribe 5, the Pharma section and Scribe 1. This is very interesting. Of all the B pages, those Lisa ascribes (no pun intended) to scribe 5 are the closest to alpha style and pharma.
I do agree that the scribe 5 pages in Q8 appear different stylistically. The way You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. inhabits the page is quite bizarre, it is very tiny and compressed for this type of plant drawing. Still it has many alpha properties. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is a harder case because it is kind of faded (?). It's hard to see what's going on. And it is one of the strongest alpha plants. Now if both scribe 5 and scribe 1 draw alpha plants, then what does this mean? Where do alpha properties come from? There are still many questions and possible scenarios, but I find these things fascinating.
* I don't think the beta style presents itself as more "experienced" than the alpha style. If anything, the alpha style is more detailed (veins) than the beta style. The latter has got weird things going on like the leaf shape and the way leaves may be on one side of the stalk. The attention for terrain (grass, root platforms) to me personally feels like a different focus/approach rather than a qualitative improvement. In a way it's even a drastic departure from the isolated plant approach, but not necessarily the kind of thing that comes with experience.
I should really finish editing the last part of the video, since we talked about many of these things.
I just re-read your post and realized you point to another bridge between scribe 5, the Pharma section and Scribe 1. This is very interesting. Of all the B pages, those Lisa ascribes (no pun intended) to scribe 5 are the closest to alpha style and pharma.
I do agree that the scribe 5 pages in Q8 appear different stylistically. The way You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. inhabits the page is quite bizarre, it is very tiny and compressed for this type of plant drawing. Still it has many alpha properties. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is a harder case because it is kind of faded (?). It's hard to see what's going on. And it is one of the strongest alpha plants. Now if both scribe 5 and scribe 1 draw alpha plants, then what does this mean? Where do alpha properties come from? There are still many questions and possible scenarios, but I find these things fascinating.
* I don't think the beta style presents itself as more "experienced" than the alpha style. If anything, the alpha style is more detailed (veins) than the beta style. The latter has got weird things going on like the leaf shape and the way leaves may be on one side of the stalk. The attention for terrain (grass, root platforms) to me personally feels like a different focus/approach rather than a qualitative improvement. In a way it's even a drastic departure from the isolated plant approach, but not necessarily the kind of thing that comes with experience.
I should really finish editing the last part of the video, since we talked about many of these things.