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Heraldic images provide heraldic terminology. In the case of the nebuly line, whether the term derives from the Latin (nebula) or the Germanic word for cloud (Wolke) the etymological connection is cloud-based. This is valid in French, English, German, Spanish, Italian and Dutch.

When it comes to the obscure heraldic pattern found on tubs in VMs Pisces (outer ring, abt. 11 o'clock) and VMs Dark Aries (inner ring, abt. 10 o'clock), the one that looks like fish scales, the terminology is split. Only English, French and Italian usen terms that are based on derivations of the "papillon" word for butterfly, with reference to the scales on a butterfly's wing, it is said. Other languages use terms that simply refer to scales in general, minus the butterfly connection.

The placement of these two tub patterns corresponds in quadrant and in sphere with the two blue-striped tub patterns on VMs White Aries. Only the terms beginning with 'pape..' match the French word for pope (pape) and affirm the correspondence with the heraldic representations of Innocent IV and Adrian V (the Fieschi popes) through the structural placement of the images.

The time and place of VMs creation cannot be pinned down as easily as some would like. The C-14 dates for parchment production are not necessarily the dates of VMs creation, (but they are a good place to start.) The single source interpretation for the four parchment samples is reasonable, but not the only possibility. The C-14 test data has an inherent error of several decades, and, like a weak telescope that is unable to resolve a binary star, there may be more than one source date for the parchment. The most problematic sample is the youngest, which is another potential indicator of a slightly more recent VMs creation.
 
What about the Golden Fleece, the 'Oresme' cosmos, Melusine and all that? It doesn't matter much where the VMs author was sitting when the VMs was created. What matters is that person's life experiences and travels and what they chose to record. Dijon was the capital of the state of Burgundy and the star of the north in 1400s. An informed person would know much about it, even from a distance.
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Text and context - by Hermes777 - 16-07-2022, 01:17 AM
RE: Text and context - by Juan_Sali - 16-07-2022, 11:56 AM
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RE: Text and context - by Juan_Sali - 16-07-2022, 01:40 PM
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RE: Text and context - by ReneZ - 16-07-2022, 02:14 PM
RE: Text and context - by MarcoP - 16-07-2022, 02:26 PM
RE: Text and context - by Aga Tentakulus - 16-07-2022, 04:45 PM
RE: Text and context - by Hermes777 - 16-07-2022, 09:33 PM
RE: Text and context - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 16-07-2022, 05:06 PM
RE: Text and context - by bi3mw - 16-07-2022, 05:41 PM
RE: Text and context - by R. Sale - 16-07-2022, 08:06 PM
RE: Text and context - by Aga Tentakulus - 17-07-2022, 05:31 AM
RE: Text and context - by Aga Tentakulus - 17-07-2022, 06:18 AM
RE: Text and context - by RenegadeHealer - 18-07-2022, 02:07 PM
RE: Text and context - by ReneZ - 17-07-2022, 06:52 AM
RE: Text and context - by Hermes777 - 17-07-2022, 08:22 AM
RE: Text and context - by MarcoP - 17-07-2022, 10:34 AM
RE: Text and context - by bi3mw - 17-07-2022, 11:10 AM
RE: Text and context - by Koen G - 17-07-2022, 11:35 AM
RE: Text and context - by MarcoP - 17-07-2022, 12:24 PM
RE: Text and context - by Koen G - 17-07-2022, 12:57 PM
RE: Text and context - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 17-07-2022, 01:15 PM
RE: Text and context - by ReneZ - 17-07-2022, 03:16 PM
RE: Text and context - by Ruby Novacna - 17-07-2022, 03:24 PM
RE: Text and context - by ReneZ - 17-07-2022, 03:53 PM
RE: Text and context - by Juan_Sali - 17-07-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: Text and context - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 17-07-2022, 08:38 PM
RE: Text and context - by Hermes777 - 17-07-2022, 10:44 PM
RE: Text and context - by Ruby Novacna - 17-07-2022, 06:34 PM
RE: Text and context - by R. Sale - 17-07-2022, 07:48 PM
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RE: Text and context - by R. Sale - 17-07-2022, 11:40 PM
RE: Text and context - by Aga Tentakulus - 18-07-2022, 05:10 AM
RE: Text and context - by Ruby Novacna - 18-07-2022, 09:38 AM
RE: Text and context - by Hermes777 - 18-07-2022, 10:34 AM
RE: Text and context - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 18-07-2022, 02:39 PM
RE: Text and context - by Aga Tentakulus - 18-07-2022, 03:52 PM
RE: Text and context - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 18-07-2022, 04:46 PM
RE: Text and context - by R. Sale - 18-07-2022, 05:56 PM
RE: Text and context - by Koen G - 18-07-2022, 07:45 PM
RE: Text and context - by R. Sale - 18-07-2022, 08:17 PM
RE: Text and context - by bi3mw - 18-07-2022, 08:35 PM
RE: Text and context - by Juan_Sali - 22-07-2022, 01:45 PM

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