15-08-2016, 01:23 PM
(15-08-2016, 01:06 PM)Sam G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(15-08-2016, 08:51 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For me, the statements from a well-know expert in zodiac iconography:
"The signs of the Zodiac do not present problems - they are simply not of the Arateia type but were modernized.
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The genre scenes, eg. Aries eating a bush, suggest that the signs were redrawn from a calendar. "
are far more convincing.
You cite these opinions as though she considered the evidence I presented above and dismissed it as irrelevant, but of course these opinions were offered before this evidence was available, so it is hard to see the relevance of this quote here. In any case, the remark about "redrawn from a calendar" seems to imply that she perceived an outside influence of some kind in the VMS Zodiac imagery, which along with the point about the imagery being "modernized" is actually perfectly consistent with the scenario I outlined above.
Anyway, although you did not really say so in a direct way, I will interpret your remarks as indicating that you believe the similarities in the images I presented above to be purely coincidental.
I don't want to second-guess about what she may or may not have thought, but obviously she will be fully aware of the existence of zodiac images in mosaics throughout the ages.
Given the difference both in time and geographic location of the two images, I do consider them independent, so the similarity to be a generic one. If one has a large number of images of a goat, some will end up being quite similar.
I understand (interpret) the modernisation to have been a gradual process. Documents being copied throughout the ages.