22-09-2021, 04:45 PM
Has anyone thought of tracking the political allegiance of various locations over time. From ghibiline to guelph and guelph to ghibiline, one might expect the battlements in use would track that.
From my research the differences between the guelph and ghibiline is more difficult than one might first suspect. Originally the ghibilines were allied to the Holy Roman Emperor and the guelphs to the Pope. However it seem to become more complicated than that. The ghibilines seemed to be more associated with the aristocracy whilst the guelphs were more associated with the merchant class. However it was more complicated than that as certain professional guilds might be ghibiline and others guelph. However it seems more complicated than that as it appears like allegiances to the guelph party or ghibiline party were almost more like allegiances to football teams. You could find aristocrats who were guelph and religious figures who were ghibilines. Certain cities or towns tended to by allied to one party or the other. In Florence you had the black guelphs and the white guelphs.
It would not be very difficult to alter battlements to turn them from guelph to ghibiline or vice-a-versa. If true it would be more effort than changing flag, but it seems to me it would not have been a major construction project.
What is the earliest example of ghibiline merlons we know of? And how did use of that symbolism spread?
Also if all examples of ghibiline merlons in the early 15th century were identified how would we use that knowledge?
Also is consideration being made of buildings with a central tower with a spire?
From my research the differences between the guelph and ghibiline is more difficult than one might first suspect. Originally the ghibilines were allied to the Holy Roman Emperor and the guelphs to the Pope. However it seem to become more complicated than that. The ghibilines seemed to be more associated with the aristocracy whilst the guelphs were more associated with the merchant class. However it was more complicated than that as certain professional guilds might be ghibiline and others guelph. However it seems more complicated than that as it appears like allegiances to the guelph party or ghibiline party were almost more like allegiances to football teams. You could find aristocrats who were guelph and religious figures who were ghibilines. Certain cities or towns tended to by allied to one party or the other. In Florence you had the black guelphs and the white guelphs.
It would not be very difficult to alter battlements to turn them from guelph to ghibiline or vice-a-versa. If true it would be more effort than changing flag, but it seems to me it would not have been a major construction project.
What is the earliest example of ghibiline merlons we know of? And how did use of that symbolism spread?
Also if all examples of ghibiline merlons in the early 15th century were identified how would we use that knowledge?
Also is consideration being made of buildings with a central tower with a spire?