30-07-2021, 12:56 AM
Old thread, but I got here from a newer one, where I also posted something similar.
My first impression of the AG seal was that it was a personalized or stylized Masonic symbol. It doesn't have the square at the bottom that I can see but it is a G within an A (compass?). Was this discussed already?
Masons were big in Italy in the 18th/19th though at times suppressed. I just googled a few of their seal rings and they do have the G within compass symbol.
If it IS a Mason symbol (can we ask them what they think? Anyone a Mason or know one?), then a whole lot of conjecture springs to mind.
But one in particular from me: I had noticed a few weird coincidences on the Rosettes page that made me wonder whether the Rosicrucians had a hand in it or saw it, and whether there was a connection to Book M that Yates mentions. That eventually brought me to Nick Pelling's Book M speculation and he had noticed other things. Searcher independently saw a few too: both of us wondered about the dew from heaven motto, and the 37 reasons of the Rosicrucians. (Note, in my schemata, the top left rosette has multiple but connected symbolic meanings, one of which is the higher soul/spirit, sometimes called Mind of God, or Reason. It has 37 moons inside it - so 37 Reasons struck a familiar but discordant key. It just seemed really specific. My interpretation of that layer of meaning is based on the hermetica, and since both Mason and Rosicrucian orders are heavily based on hermetic traditions, it would not be surprising if they also saw that sphere as Mind or Reason. But nowhere in the hermetica are 37 Reasons mentioned. Hence my curiosity: had they seen the Voynich Rosettes page?).
Bringing this back to topic: I can't help but wonder if the VMS might have been copied around the time Nick Pelling suggested the Rosicrucian founder perhaps might have seen it. That's putting aside the notion that it might have been created then as a bogus Book M, but rather copied, in part or in whole, as inspiration and basis for the fictitious Book M. And many Masons were also Rosicrucians.
Because then the idea of this page being copied from a different copy of the VMS has just a tiny bit of evidence to support it, I think. Or at least a pre-existing hypothesis/speculation.
But of course it could have been copied at any time in its history. And A G might turn out to be Agnes Grimm or something!
Still...
My first impression of the AG seal was that it was a personalized or stylized Masonic symbol. It doesn't have the square at the bottom that I can see but it is a G within an A (compass?). Was this discussed already?
Masons were big in Italy in the 18th/19th though at times suppressed. I just googled a few of their seal rings and they do have the G within compass symbol.
If it IS a Mason symbol (can we ask them what they think? Anyone a Mason or know one?), then a whole lot of conjecture springs to mind.
But one in particular from me: I had noticed a few weird coincidences on the Rosettes page that made me wonder whether the Rosicrucians had a hand in it or saw it, and whether there was a connection to Book M that Yates mentions. That eventually brought me to Nick Pelling's Book M speculation and he had noticed other things. Searcher independently saw a few too: both of us wondered about the dew from heaven motto, and the 37 reasons of the Rosicrucians. (Note, in my schemata, the top left rosette has multiple but connected symbolic meanings, one of which is the higher soul/spirit, sometimes called Mind of God, or Reason. It has 37 moons inside it - so 37 Reasons struck a familiar but discordant key. It just seemed really specific. My interpretation of that layer of meaning is based on the hermetica, and since both Mason and Rosicrucian orders are heavily based on hermetic traditions, it would not be surprising if they also saw that sphere as Mind or Reason. But nowhere in the hermetica are 37 Reasons mentioned. Hence my curiosity: had they seen the Voynich Rosettes page?).
Bringing this back to topic: I can't help but wonder if the VMS might have been copied around the time Nick Pelling suggested the Rosicrucian founder perhaps might have seen it. That's putting aside the notion that it might have been created then as a bogus Book M, but rather copied, in part or in whole, as inspiration and basis for the fictitious Book M. And many Masons were also Rosicrucians.
Because then the idea of this page being copied from a different copy of the VMS has just a tiny bit of evidence to support it, I think. Or at least a pre-existing hypothesis/speculation.
But of course it could have been copied at any time in its history. And A G might turn out to be Agnes Grimm or something!
Still...