[split] Discussion of f116v interpretations by Anton Alipov

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On my opinion, 8-shaped glyph here is just the Voynich cipher character "d". So, I consider it as a little hint.

Yes it looks very much like d. But what could "aror sheey val d en ubren" mean? Assuming that two portions of the phrase are encrypted, could any meaning be guessed?

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"val" would mean "pale, discoloured" or be a word form of "valen" ("valwen") - to discoulour

"en ubren" = in upper parts?

I assume that valden is a possible varia lectio of walden.

Quote of myself:
If my deciphering is even a little correct, the last line of the notes is:

"Retornare ineam  walten ubr'en so nim gaf mich." = "May I enter (begin) to return. Rule over me (this). So take. I gave myself." Or, maybe: "May I enter (begin) to return to rule over this. So take, I gave myself." I don't mean "I gave to myself"

Another possibility, if I'm mistaken with the "sh" character, therefore - with the second cipher word in full, it is an accusative of a noun (to return something). So we get such sentences: "To return something, (to) rule over this. So take. I gave myself." But I prefer the first variant. I know, it sounds strange, but it has a sense in the whole context of the manuscript.
And, of course, likely (my view), the rest of words containing this cipher character are dabat, miltost and portat as the cipher "d" (8) substitutes t and d. 
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. - Middle High German, mildest (Old English - mildost), the letter "o" before the "8" has 2 little tails, suppose it is the cipher "l" (loop).