(19-07-2016, 07:10 AM)Helmut Winkler wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am glad I have finally found some people who can teach me the finer points of my own language, but I would like to point out several things.
1) The text really looks like 'geis mich', which really lsuggests geismilch, goat milk
3) I think one should remember that at the beginning of the page there is talk about poxleber, and that pox is the Gen. to pock, a male goat (not to mention the drawings, which go into the same direction)
I can't agree with these points.
1) The text simply does not look like "geis mich". What it looks like is "gasmich" or, at most, "gafmich" (if we provide for that parchment bending allegedly hiding the "f"'s stroke from view, as -JKP- suggests).
It is not "ei", but "a" crossed by the prolonged horizontal stroke of "g". This can be seen if one zooms the image.
And there is simply no "l". It is not there
. Now, when "mich" is a valid German word, what foundations are there to state that it is not "mich" but "milch"? I think there are no solid foundations for that. Imagine, for example, that a text in English contains the word "lie". Now, what arguments would there be to state that it is not meant to be "lie", but instead "life"? Are there any examples when milk is represented by "mich", not "milch"?3) "pox leber" is, at the same time, a typical medieval idiom, referring actually to God, not to a goat. The depicted animal does not look like a certain goat. Rather, it looks like a lamb (this was discussed above in this thread). Last, but not least, male goat does not go in the same direction as female goat.
I'm afraid that all the goat discourse is ultimately caused by holding to the "goat" interpretation of "pox", which is not certain.
Quote:On my opinion, 8-shaped glyph here is just the Voynich cipher character "d". So, I consider it as a little hint.
Yes it looks very much like d. But what could "aror sheey val d en ubren" mean? Assuming that two portions of the phrase are encrypted, could any meaning be guessed?
"val" would mean "pale, discoloured" or be a word form of "valen" ("valwen") - to discoulour
"en ubren" = in upper parts?
