[split] Discussion of f116v interpretations by Anton Alipov
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(18-07-2016, 06:08 PM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Quote:I can't find an explanation for the -e-shape in walden though.

That is something I mused over yesterday. This shape looks like the Latin letter "c". Two possibilities present themselves:

- This is an "e", and it's top edge point passes on to the ascender of the subsequent "n". If you abstract from the parchment impairment in between "e" and "n", you'll see how this happens. Although this scenatio suggests that "e" was put down from bottom to top clockwise (so as to seamlessly pass over to "n"). I don't know if that was a normal way of writing in 15th c. Myself, I always write an "e" counterclockwise.

- This is a "c", making the word something like "valdcn" or "valdcz". "Valdcn" is just phonetically strange. As for "valdcz" (or "paldcz") - are there any posibilities out there? Something Czech, maybe?

Quote:There is a serious drawback to either gasmich or gas mich. They don't mean anything.

Oh well they do. Just please read the thread from the beginning. Wink

I have read it. You proposed quickly as a meaning for gâs.

  1. In Romanian gâs means geese (it's geese in several other languages, as well, but spelled differently).
  2. In 17th century Welsh, gâs means gave/bequeathed.
  3. I believe it means "our folk/our sons" in old French/Norman (a variant of gârs). In modern French it's sometimes used as slang for "guys".
  4. In old Polish (19th century), gâs means light or gas.
Other than those, I only know of gâs (with the accent) used as a pronunciation guide, not as an actual word.

But I'm not familiar with gâs meaning "quickly". What language is that?

(18-07-2016, 06:49 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(18-07-2016, 06:08 PM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Quote:I can't find an explanation for the -e-shape in walden though.

That is something I mused over yesterday. This shape looks like the Latin letter "c". Two possibilities present themselves:

- This is an "e", and it's top edge point passes on to the ascender of the subsequent "n". If you abstract from the parchment impairment in between "e" and "n", you'll see how this happens. Although this scenatio suggests that "e" was put down from bottom to top clockwise (so as to seamlessly pass over to "n"). I don't know if that was a normal way of writing in 15th c. Myself, I always write an "e" counterclockwise.

- This is a "c", making the word something like "valdcn" or "valdcz". "Valdcn" is just phonetically strange. As for "valdcz" (or "paldcz") - are there any posibilities out there? Something Czech, maybe?

Quote:There is a serious drawback to either gasmich or gas mich. They don't mean anything.

Oh well they do. Just please read the thread from the beginning. Wink

I have read it. You proposed quickly as a meaning for gâs.

  1. In Romanian gâs means geese (it's geese in several other languages, as well, but spelled differently).
  2. In 17th century Welsh, gâs means gave/bequeathed.
  3. I believe it means "our folk/our sons" in old French/Norman (a variant of gârs). In modern French it's sometimes used as slang for "guys".
  4. In old Polish (19th century), gâs means light or gas.
Other than those, I only know of gâs (with the accent) used as a pronunciation guide, not as an actual word.

But I'm not familiar with gâs meaning "quickly". What language is that?

Hmmm, reading through it again, it looks like Dolokhov may have added the accent/cap. In your original blog I don't see it. But even so, I'm not familiar with gas as quickly either, so perhaps you could clarify its origin.
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