[split] Discussion of f116v interpretations by Anton Alipov
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I agree with Koen: There are so many varieties of Middle High German that they are just barely the same language. Spelling was not standardized either. So to Searcher and Anton, I don't see any reason why the vord "valden" can't be NHD "walten" or MHD "valten".


"walten über" is a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in NHD and means "rule/preside over". "Walten über den" (valden ubren) would have to mean "rule over this/it" or "preside over this/it."

Anton, you're right about your translation of "do valten in di sunde" - I'll just add that this verb form is third person plural (which I'm sure you know) - "they fell." In German, a conjugated verb usually has a subject nearby (in the poem it's the "si" in the 6th line, which means "they"). It's uncommon for a conjugated verb not to have a subject, which means that it must be one of the cipher words if valden is indeed past.

I believe that exhausts all the MHD options until we find a Middle German professor Smile
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RE: [split] Discussion of f116v interpretations by Anton Alipov - by ThomasCoon - 11-07-2016, 03:57 PM
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