frequent Voynich vords in Slavic VCI and West Slavic languages
#16
(29-09-2020, 02:59 PM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Also, what you present is very, very far from half a page of quire 13.

Here are the first 26 lines of folio page f75r, the first page of the biological section and of quire 13. This passage runs the length of the first long vertical illustration of bathing women on the page. It constitutes more than half of the text on page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in my estimation (26 of 46 lines, although these lines may each contain slightly less text because the illustration occupies more space). 

EVA:

[kchedy  kary]   [okeey  qokar  shy  kchedy  qotar  shedy]
[dain  shey  ly]   [ssheol  qolchedy  chedykar  chekeedy  ror]
[qokain  chal]   [orchey  qey  kain  sheeky  ltain  olkar  or]
[dackhy  lkamo]   [ykeey  lshey  kal  dy  shey  or  shey  qokeedy]
[shey  kar  chey]   [ckhey  r  ain  ol  ol  sheedy  qokeey  qoky]
[pchey  keeor  olky]  [dar  okey  qokain  chcthy  qokeedy  qoky]    
[pchedy  qokshdy]   [ytain  chedy  qokar  chy  lol  chedy  qoky]
[sor  chey  qotardy]   [dsheckhy  qokain  chckhy  lshedy  okeedy]
[qokchdy  chcthy  lo]  [qokedy  qokan  checkhy  qokar  olchedy  sal]    
[dshor  qotar  chdy]   [shey qokain  chckhy  dy  otey  tedy  lchedy]
[qokeedy  qokain  oly]  [qokeedy  dy  qokal  okar  shedy  dor  chekam]   
[ssheckhy  qokal  oly]   [shey  r  ol  cheey  shey  dy  ol  shedy  qoky]
[pchedy  keedy  qokedy]   [qokedy  qokedy  qokedy  qokain  olshedy]
[sain  ol  keeshy  qokain  dy]  [olshedy  qokain  chckhy  qokain  otar  aly]
[sain  qokain  qol  keeoly]  [saiin  chedy  sol  or  shedy  okchdy  qoky]
[dshedy  qokar  sheedy  lch]  [shokain  chy  otshedy  qokain  chedy]
[pchedar  shepchy  lshedary]  [dal  shal  shy  kol  shedy  qokam]
[sol  sheedy  qol  shedy  qol]  [otain  char  sar  oly]
[qokshedy  qol  shey  qoky]  [shey  ithey  qokain  ar]
[ry  shey  qor  chey  lchey  lo]  [ydain  shey  qokain]
[oqekain  chey  qckhsy  or]  [ysheor  ol  lor  am]
[odar  shey  qokain  chedy]  [or  shey  kar  chedy  sar]
[pchey  kshey  qokeey  qokal]  [sshey  qol  chedy  qokam]
[qokain  olkeey  qolkary]  [sain  checthy  lor  ol]
[saiin  shckhy  qokeedy  shy  dy]  [qokeedy  lchedy  ram]
[dain  ol  sheol  dain  ol  qoly]  [dar  ady]


Slavic VCI:

<tiec#  tal#>  <dé#  nal  rj#  tiec#  mal  rjec#>
<co  rje#  s#>  <rrjez  nšec#  jec#tal  jetéc#  lw>  
<no  jas>  <wje#  ne#  to  rjét#  spo  ztal  w>
<catj#  stásch>  <#té#  srje#  tas  c#  rje#  w  rje#  néc#> 
<rje#  tal  je#>  <tje#  l  o  z  z  rjéc#  né#  n#>
<Pie#  téw  zt#>  <cal  de#  no  ipj#  néc#  n#>
<Piec#  nrjc#>  <#po  jec#  nal  i#  sz  jec#  n#>
<rw  je#  malc#>  <crjetj#  no  itj#  srjec#  déc#>
<nic#  ipj#  sch>  <nec#  nu  jetj#  nal  žec#  ras>
<crjw  mal  ic#>  <rje#  no  itj#  c#  be#  pec#  šec#>
<néc#  no  z#>  <néc#  c#  nas  dal  rjec#  cw  jetás>
<rrjetj#  nas  z#>  <rje#  l  z  jé#  rje#  c#  z  rjec#  n#>
<Piec#  téc#  nec#>  <nec#  nec#  nec#  no  zrjec#>
<ro  z  térj#  no  c#>  <zrjec#  no  itj#  no  bal  as#>
<ro  no  ns  téz#>  <ro  jec#  rz  w  rjec#  dic#  n#>
<crjec#  nal  rjéc#  š>  <rjdo  i#  brjec#  no  jec#>
<Piecal  rjePi#  srjecal#>  <cas  rjas  rj#  tz  rjec#  nás>
<rz  rjéc#  ns  rjec#  ns>  <bo  jal  ral  z#>
<nrjec#  ns  rje#  n#>  <rje#  pje#  no  al>
<l#  rje#  nw  je#  še#  sch> <#co  rje#  no>
<chneto  je#  ntjr#  w>  <#rjew  z  sw  ás>
<žal  rje#  no  jec#>  <w  rje#  tal  jec#  ral>
<Pie#  trje#  né#  nas>  <rrje#  ns  jec#  nás>
<no  zté#  nstal#>  <ro  jepj#  sw  z>
<ro  rjtj#  néc#  rj#  c#>  <néc#  šec#  lás>
<co  z  rjez  co  z  ns#>  <cal  ac#>


I still think it "reads" fairly well as natural language-like text with a typical West Slavic phonological structure. It is worth noting a couple details about a couple specific vords/words:

[qokeey] / [qokedy] / [qokeedy] are <né#> / <nec#> / <néc#> in the Slavic VCI reading. These forms very closely resemble the words for "not" and "no" in West Slavic languages. Thus, the repetition of this vord, such as [qokeedy qokeedy qokeedy], would simply read <néc# néc# néc#> and would simply mean "no! no! no!" 

You will notice that <nas> / <nás> / <ns> occurs frequently in the half page of text above. "nas" is the Slavic word meaning "us". It occurs frequently and repetitively in such traditional texts as the Lord's Prayer and similar litanies in Slavic languages. Certain lines above such as <rz  rjéc#  ns  rjec#  ns> <bo  jal  ral  z#> and <Pie#  trje#  né#  nas> <rrje#  ns  jec#  nás> have such an appearance upon first examination. 

In light of the illustrations in this section of the ms, it is curious to note that the very first vord of the text, <tiec#>, may possibly be read as a form of the West Slavic verb "téci", "téct" (Czech) or "ćec" (Upper Sorbian), meaning "to flow". 

Geoffrey
Reply


Messages In This Thread
RE: frequent Voynich vords in Slavic VCI and West Slavic languages - by geoffreycaveney - 29-09-2020, 05:24 PM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)