14-09-2020, 11:25 PM
@Scarecrow
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@RenegadeHealer
The etc is an interesting option, it possibly fits reduplications (&c &c &c), but &c would not be expected at paragraph starts, while according to the VQP, there are five daiins at paragraph starts. It makes sense to have a closer look at all of them (labels may be treated as such), I've found one, it's f108v, not unanimously a paragraph start, but looks so, insofar it's marked with a star.
About entropy, it's longe been hinted that letters may be sorted within vords, although it's unclear in accordance to which rule.
For a quick mind experiment, suppose there's a 1:1 letter to glyph match, so daiin is a mapping of a five-letter word. Of all relevant languages, German is my candidate number one for the language of the underlay message, so let's take German. And suppose that the rule sorts consonants first and vowels second. That would roughy "explain" the positional groupings. Supposing i, l, r, n, m and g are vowels (which nicely fits six vowels of the Latin alphabet), daiin must be an extremely common five-letter German word with three vowels in it, and two vowels of those are the same. Looking at the German word frequency table, we find that such word is "seine". This very nicely fits the very frequent vord dain as well, since by omitting one e from seine we get sein, which is also a very frequent German word. Stopping here we could run and write an article for one of peer-reviewed journals about the new solution. But things get more difficult from here, because next to that we also have daiiin, which although not very frequent, nonetheless has 32 occurrences, so it must be reckoned with. We'll fail to find a single German word with three e's along with s, n and i. So we'd need to decide that it must be two words, something like "ein See" - many plants grow by lakes, don't they? Next we have odaiin, which mustn't be neglected since it's the most frequent "nightside" Voynich star, and second most frequent overall. In our bold scheme, odaiin would have to be an anagram of seine plus one more consonant (different from s or n), so I could suggest something like eisern or Steine, while gradually understanding that perhaps I'm not on the altogether right track.
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@RenegadeHealer
The etc is an interesting option, it possibly fits reduplications (&c &c &c), but &c would not be expected at paragraph starts, while according to the VQP, there are five daiins at paragraph starts. It makes sense to have a closer look at all of them (labels may be treated as such), I've found one, it's f108v, not unanimously a paragraph start, but looks so, insofar it's marked with a star.
About entropy, it's longe been hinted that letters may be sorted within vords, although it's unclear in accordance to which rule.
For a quick mind experiment, suppose there's a 1:1 letter to glyph match, so daiin is a mapping of a five-letter word. Of all relevant languages, German is my candidate number one for the language of the underlay message, so let's take German. And suppose that the rule sorts consonants first and vowels second. That would roughy "explain" the positional groupings. Supposing i, l, r, n, m and g are vowels (which nicely fits six vowels of the Latin alphabet), daiin must be an extremely common five-letter German word with three vowels in it, and two vowels of those are the same. Looking at the German word frequency table, we find that such word is "seine". This very nicely fits the very frequent vord dain as well, since by omitting one e from seine we get sein, which is also a very frequent German word. Stopping here we could run and write an article for one of peer-reviewed journals about the new solution. But things get more difficult from here, because next to that we also have daiiin, which although not very frequent, nonetheless has 32 occurrences, so it must be reckoned with. We'll fail to find a single German word with three e's along with s, n and i. So we'd need to decide that it must be two words, something like "ein See" - many plants grow by lakes, don't they? Next we have odaiin, which mustn't be neglected since it's the most frequent "nightside" Voynich star, and second most frequent overall. In our bold scheme, odaiin would have to be an anagram of seine plus one more consonant (different from s or n), so I could suggest something like eisern or Steine, while gradually understanding that perhaps I'm not on the altogether right track.