F82r as the Black Sea
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A couple thoughts.

When the Burgundian navy entered the Black Sea in 1445, it split in two. De Thoisy went east and Waleran de Wavrin went north, sailed up the Danube, saw action against Muslim forces, and had to depart before winter ice. De Thoisy got in trouble and didn't get that far north. Did either actually get to the Crimea? If the VMs 'Black Sea' map was made from purely Burgundian information, was the Sea of Azov known to exist? Can we assume that the VMs artist was also an ace cartographer or had any first-hand knowledge to start with?

The water outline / shoreline has been drawn with a nebuly line. Following the cloud-based etymology, it might be considered as to what extent the shores might be cloudy or foggy, the marshes at the Danube delta for instance. And if not foggy in a meteorological sense, then foggy in an intellectual sense.

There are a couple of books in the KBR portion of the library of Philip the Good that are indicative of his interest in the eastern situation and the potential for another crusade which almost happened, even after the fall of Byzantium, but then flopped. Problem is that this chronology puts things into the 1450s and afterwards. Some consider that too late.

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F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 31-05-2019, 08:27 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 01-06-2019, 09:10 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Monica Yokubinas - 03-06-2019, 06:21 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 03-06-2019, 08:42 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 04-06-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 05-10-2019, 08:16 AM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 29-06-2020, 06:39 AM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by R. Sale - 30-06-2020, 12:40 AM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 30-06-2020, 07:35 AM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by R. Sale - 30-06-2020, 06:21 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by R. Sale - 01-07-2020, 07:56 PM
RE: F82r as the Black Sea - by Linda - 15-12-2022, 03:57 AM

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