Hi Rene,
if by "cursive" you mean hasty, slanted and with connected characters, these features also occur in some pages in Fontana's manuscripts. These two samples are from Secretum de thesauro, BNF NAL 635 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.).
About the two ciphers you attached, I would say that MS Pal.Germ.597 looks arbitrary, like a diplomatic cipher, while Fontana looks even more systematic and less arbitrary than Voynichese.
I agree and I would add the curl-like macron ligature that looks like in iin iiin
... bonum nostrum aut deus aut a deo est Unde non ... (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
On the other hand, also the -tis abbreviation that looks like k tends to appear at the end of words in Latin manuscripts, while k is a rare suffix in Voynichese.
Anyway, the fact that the similarity between Voynichese and Latin abbreviations is not accidental seems quite clear.
if by "cursive" you mean hasty, slanted and with connected characters, these features also occur in some pages in Fontana's manuscripts. These two samples are from Secretum de thesauro, BNF NAL 635 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.).
About the two ciphers you attached, I would say that MS Pal.Germ.597 looks arbitrary, like a diplomatic cipher, while Fontana looks even more systematic and less arbitrary than Voynichese.
(09-10-2019, 08:26 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The symbol y is a very common abbreviation symbol in languages that use Latin characters and is usually at the end of words, sometimes at the beginning of words, and rarely in the middle of words. It also sometimes stands alone (depending on the language).
In the VMS, the y symbol is usually at the end of tokens, sometimes at the beginning of tokens, and rarely in the middle of tokens. It also sometmes stands alone.
Okay, maybe one glyph can be similar to Latin shape and position by accident... but the same thing happens with the m and g glyphs...
The symbols m and g are common abbreviation symbols (ris and cis) in Latin languages and they are usually at the ends of words or the ends of paragraphs (it does double duty as an end-paragraph marker in some languages). They are rarely in other positions.
In the VMS the glyphs m and g are usually at the ends of words or at the ends of lines. They are rarely in other positions.
It would be VERY hard to explain this many similarities on the basis of coincidence and these patterns are definitely not arbitrary or accidental, they are consistent throughout the manuscript.
I agree and I would add the curl-like macron ligature that looks like in iin iiin
... bonum nostrum aut deus aut a deo est Unde non ... (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
On the other hand, also the -tis abbreviation that looks like k tends to appear at the end of words in Latin manuscripts, while k is a rare suffix in Voynichese.
Anyway, the fact that the similarity between Voynichese and Latin abbreviations is not accidental seems quite clear.
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