Voynichese a result of a creolization?

[Gavin Güldenpfennig]

Hi Gavin! 
Well you've certainly put some work into this. 
It requires some more careful thought. 
A few questions off the top of my head. 
1. you've transliterated the upper right corner in two completely different ways. However in Voynichese the only difference is the addition of one glyph. Why is this? 
2. we're seeing words from both Persian and babylonia being included. Is this really feasible?
3. okor appears over You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the corpus, throughout the manuscript. Is it feasible that it always means the name of this one star?

Hello David,

thank you for your thoughts. It seems, that they brought me a step further in thinking.

Coming to your questions:

1.) We have okor and otory in the upper right corner of 68r3, so we have two different letters not only one.   

As I tried to explain above. Depending from which original language the word did came from and from its position in the word, the open and half- open vowels, â (EVA- a) and a, e, o (EVA- o) can change into a vowel- consonant- harmony, like "al" (initial), "ar", "or", "ro", "ara" (central) or "an" and "as" (final, marked by EVA- y). 

And even consonants like "k" can vary their glyph shape, depending on their position, so the initial "k" has the same EVA- glyph (k) as the "gn- sound". And final EVA- r, seems to correlate sometimes also with "rr/ch" like- sound as we know it for example from the spanish word "perro"  So we have the following reading of the 68r3 examples:

(EVA- letter / transcription- letter / letter in Arabic)

for okor: (o/al/al) + (k/gn/m) + (o/a/â) + (r/rr/ch)
for otory: (o/al/al) + (t/p/f) + (o/ar/ar) + (y/as/as)

2.) 

If we follow the Basque - Romani theory, we have to consider, that both languages had different connections to other languages. So we could do the following summary of correlating languages until the 15th century:

for Basque: Spanish, French, Arabic/ Mozarabic, Celtic
for Romani: Sanskrit, Persian, Armenian, Turkic, Greek (Byzanz Empire)

So all words which we can follow back to these language are possible loan words.

In the one case of possible Babylonic origin, I should mention, that this word is a very old one, which we can found even in the Arabic name of the star. And the word "fish" itself is a word which exists since the earliest time of human history. So it might came with Punic people to the Basque. We don´t know. In the mean time I have found another (Turkic) word for a VMS- star connected to Mesopotamia.  

3.) The word "algnarr" for the caracal (almaach) is quite strange in comparison to the other Voynich- words. But there is maybe an explanation. The Voynichese seems to have a final- m- glyph (EVA- z, which is a small version of EVA- k), but an initial- m or a central- m seemingly is missing, so the EVA- k- letter could be used for that. So "okor" could read as "almarr" or "almaach" and at least depending on the context as akar(a) (= black) or al- kar(a) (=(burst of) buds) according to this book dealing with the indoeuropean word history:

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What I want to say is, that if I´m right, we cannot do any statistics about the VMS at the moment. We think "okor" appears 100 times as the same word, with the same meaning, but word meanings can change even with writing the same word depending on the context. 

A good example for this phenomenon is "bank". In English it can be used as "bank of money" or "bank of a river" and even a "bench" is existing there.

And then you have such a writing system as the Voynichese one. For me it is clear, after nobody could read this book, the alphabet became a case for the shredder. It simply doesn´t work. At least not in a way without interpreting words while reading them.

I hope you can follow my thoughts.