07-04-2016, 10:40 PM
Yes, .....
.... your point?
I am not suggesting that certain patterns do not repeat themselves - either historically or as derived from nature. That seems to be what you are suggesting, that these patterns may be repeated, and I do not disagree at all. Certainly examples of various scaly patterns are going to be natural.
The nebuly examples you are using, however, are a bit problematic. Of the four examples you cite, two are already known in the VMs and the third is the Tubingen ram. So only the aegis example is new. What it shows is a line where the red intrusions *very poorly* mirror the black patterns. And when seen in context, where the red lines are like the fringes on a dress and the black is simply empty background. It looks less and less like anything having to do with clouds.
The use of nebuly lines in VMs plants shows up in several examples. Has the artist gone overboard?
The use of traditional lines of division in heraldry predates the Carbon-14 dating of the VMs parchment by more than a century. Therefore it seems reasonable to me to define and interpret examples of these lines as found in the VMs illustrations according to that traditional method. I think that heraldic definitions enhance and clarify the details of these discussions. And that the best way to understand the VMs would be according to the interpretations that were relevant at the time of VMs composition. Heraldry is a relevant, but long ignored part of that understanding.
.... your point?
I am not suggesting that certain patterns do not repeat themselves - either historically or as derived from nature. That seems to be what you are suggesting, that these patterns may be repeated, and I do not disagree at all. Certainly examples of various scaly patterns are going to be natural.
The nebuly examples you are using, however, are a bit problematic. Of the four examples you cite, two are already known in the VMs and the third is the Tubingen ram. So only the aegis example is new. What it shows is a line where the red intrusions *very poorly* mirror the black patterns. And when seen in context, where the red lines are like the fringes on a dress and the black is simply empty background. It looks less and less like anything having to do with clouds.
The use of nebuly lines in VMs plants shows up in several examples. Has the artist gone overboard?
The use of traditional lines of division in heraldry predates the Carbon-14 dating of the VMs parchment by more than a century. Therefore it seems reasonable to me to define and interpret examples of these lines as found in the VMs illustrations according to that traditional method. I think that heraldic definitions enhance and clarify the details of these discussions. And that the best way to understand the VMs would be according to the interpretations that were relevant at the time of VMs composition. Heraldry is a relevant, but long ignored part of that understanding.