07-04-2016, 07:57 PM
The comparison of the VMs illustration with the Tubingen ram is not a really bad example. Nor is is a really good example. There are certain points of comparison that are similar. And the example provided stands until a better comparison can be discovered.
This is a two part comparison. The identification of the animal in the VMs illustration is clearly the more difficult aspect and therefore the weaker part of the comparison. The nebuly lines are simpler, but there are ways to go wrong here as well, with wavy lines and ruffled fabric. I believe Don of Tallahassee had an example where the hem of a dress was represented with nebuly lines. A reasonable use for the physical pattern, but a potential loss of the associated connotations, which directly evolve from the word cloudy, whether atmospheric, celestial or cosmic. And the lines along with their connotations constitute the better part of the artistic technique know as the wolkenband. There are a multitude of examples in the Apocalypse Tapestry.
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Just one of many images Don brought to that discussion - a broader look at nebuly lines.
But back to the matter in question, where there is a significant aspect of comparison that is not in the current conversation. And that is the use of paint. And although it is faint in the VMs illustration, it is still clear that blue paint has been applied to the pattern of the nebuly lines. And it has been done so that the parts of the nebuly line where the bulbs extend downward get the paint. And comparing with the Tubingen ram, here as well the downward bulbs are blue. How will it be if we add this as a requirement in our search criteria? Pretty ding-dang difficult, I suspect.
What I am looking at is not so much the VMs artist's ability to precisely replicate an image, but the ability to evoke the recognition of an image, like the Oresme cosmos. The precise image and the less than precise image can both serve to illustrate a certain concept, identification or idea. And this concept, once it has been communicated and accepted by the reader, functions in a very similar manner, regardless of the precision of the initial image. I now tend to place less emphasis of the subjective qualities of the illustration and more on the objective placement of the elements within the illustration: the lines placed below the animal, the placement and the color of the paint. Those are objective facts.
So let's turn the two part analysis into a three part analysis. In the comparison of visual similarities between VMs and the Tubingen ram. The animal comparison is poor. The nebuly line comparison is at least adequate. And the color and placement of the paint is good. One might even say surprisingly good. So that's two and an little fraction out of three, which is pretty good on the VMs scale.
As an alternative to focusing on the difficulties of matching the animal and ignoring the nebuly lines and the paint, what if we focus on the lines and the paint, where the correspondence is good, and pay less attention to the comparison between the animals? The challenge then, still, is to find a better animal with equally good lines and paint. However, in the reality of the situation, there may not be an adequate, satisfactory example extant.
The thing to do with multiple interpretations is to examine all possibilities and determine which options are conducive to further relevant investigations and which options are dead ends. Let the results determine the potential validity of the interpretations.
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This is a two part comparison. The identification of the animal in the VMs illustration is clearly the more difficult aspect and therefore the weaker part of the comparison. The nebuly lines are simpler, but there are ways to go wrong here as well, with wavy lines and ruffled fabric. I believe Don of Tallahassee had an example where the hem of a dress was represented with nebuly lines. A reasonable use for the physical pattern, but a potential loss of the associated connotations, which directly evolve from the word cloudy, whether atmospheric, celestial or cosmic. And the lines along with their connotations constitute the better part of the artistic technique know as the wolkenband. There are a multitude of examples in the Apocalypse Tapestry.
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Just one of many images Don brought to that discussion - a broader look at nebuly lines.
But back to the matter in question, where there is a significant aspect of comparison that is not in the current conversation. And that is the use of paint. And although it is faint in the VMs illustration, it is still clear that blue paint has been applied to the pattern of the nebuly lines. And it has been done so that the parts of the nebuly line where the bulbs extend downward get the paint. And comparing with the Tubingen ram, here as well the downward bulbs are blue. How will it be if we add this as a requirement in our search criteria? Pretty ding-dang difficult, I suspect.
What I am looking at is not so much the VMs artist's ability to precisely replicate an image, but the ability to evoke the recognition of an image, like the Oresme cosmos. The precise image and the less than precise image can both serve to illustrate a certain concept, identification or idea. And this concept, once it has been communicated and accepted by the reader, functions in a very similar manner, regardless of the precision of the initial image. I now tend to place less emphasis of the subjective qualities of the illustration and more on the objective placement of the elements within the illustration: the lines placed below the animal, the placement and the color of the paint. Those are objective facts.
So let's turn the two part analysis into a three part analysis. In the comparison of visual similarities between VMs and the Tubingen ram. The animal comparison is poor. The nebuly line comparison is at least adequate. And the color and placement of the paint is good. One might even say surprisingly good. So that's two and an little fraction out of three, which is pretty good on the VMs scale.
As an alternative to focusing on the difficulties of matching the animal and ignoring the nebuly lines and the paint, what if we focus on the lines and the paint, where the correspondence is good, and pay less attention to the comparison between the animals? The challenge then, still, is to find a better animal with equally good lines and paint. However, in the reality of the situation, there may not be an adequate, satisfactory example extant.
The thing to do with multiple interpretations is to examine all possibilities and determine which options are conducive to further relevant investigations and which options are dead ends. Let the results determine the potential validity of the interpretations.
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