VMs (f80v) critter identified
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(16-07-2019, 11:12 PM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The “Apocalypse of S Jean” aka BNF Fr. 13096 is dated to 1313.
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A folio from this manuscript was recently posted in J.K. Petersen’s blog discussing the possibility that the elusive VMs (f80v) critter was related to medieval images of the Agnus Dei. 
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As a lamb or sheep, the form of the VMs critter has been compared with that of the ram seen in the image of the Order of the Golden Fleece, begun by Philip the Good in Burgundy in 1429. Apparently the “Apocalypse of S Jean” was in the library of Philip the Good as well. Speculation must allow that someone of that era could have known the structure of the apocalypse image and substituted  a reversed  representation of the Burgundian fleece in place of the lamb while retaining the other parts. Not only that, if this occurred in the 1430s, it is still within the parchment dates.

Just came across something coincidental, Marie of Savoy married to the Duke of Milan, her father was antiPope Felix V, her mother was Philip the Good's aunt.  Marie commissioned a breviary around 1428 for her hubby which has some pics similar to the vms dragon, among others. I got there from an Aries goat, but i am not sure it was supposed to be aries, havent found the book yet, just snippets.

marginal goat
Breviary of Mary of Savoy, Lombardy ca. 1430
Chambéry, Bibliothèque municipale, ms. 4, fol. 443r
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VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 16-07-2019, 11:12 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 17-07-2019, 05:14 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 17-07-2019, 12:19 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 18-07-2019, 01:45 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 17-07-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 18-07-2019, 04:26 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by nablator - 18-07-2019, 08:20 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 18-07-2019, 12:39 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 18-07-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 18-07-2019, 01:03 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 18-07-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 18-07-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 19-07-2019, 09:58 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 19-07-2019, 02:32 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 18-07-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 19-07-2019, 09:03 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 19-07-2019, 05:17 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 20-07-2019, 02:39 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 20-07-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by nablator - 20-07-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 20-07-2019, 07:48 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 21-07-2019, 12:35 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 21-07-2019, 03:53 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 23-07-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 24-07-2019, 07:35 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 25-07-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 26-07-2019, 06:57 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 26-07-2019, 05:52 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 26-07-2019, 06:00 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 26-07-2019, 07:04 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 26-07-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 26-07-2019, 08:12 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 26-07-2019, 10:55 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 27-07-2019, 12:52 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Common_Man - 27-07-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 27-07-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 28-07-2019, 12:36 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 01-08-2019, 12:22 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 01-08-2019, 11:42 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 03-08-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 12:09 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 04-08-2019, 12:26 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 04-08-2019, 12:45 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 12:55 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 01:07 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 04-08-2019, 01:27 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 04-08-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 06:03 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 04-08-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 07-08-2019, 12:25 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 07-08-2019, 06:03 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 07-08-2019, 02:57 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 07-08-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 07-08-2019, 05:14 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 07-08-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 07-08-2019, 10:30 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 07-08-2019, 11:25 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 08-08-2019, 03:22 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 08-08-2019, 12:02 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by ReneZ - 08-08-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 08-08-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 11-08-2019, 12:33 AM

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