VMs (f80v) critter identified
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When I blogged about the VMS curled-up critter, I didn't post all my research because there are many loose ends.

For example, I couldn't find the source of numerous images (like a stained glass image of a lamb curled up like a cat with paw-like hooves) that MIGHT be from a cathedral in France, but I'm not sure.

Also, I was HOPING to figure out when the prone-position Agnus Dei came on the scene, but it hasn't been easy. I am still looking. It sometimes takes years to chase down a detail like this.

Here are two more examples of prone lambs, one painted on a pillar, the other carved out of wood:

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There is one in Notre Dame de Bellecombe.

This one is not prone, but it has streams of water and a stream of blood. Streams of water coming out of the base is a very old pagan theme:


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I don't have enough examples to know for sure, but the earlier curled up or prone lambs SEEM to be more common in France:

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However, I found this German example in a drawing style similar to the VMS in Donaueschingen 437 from the later 15th century:

[Image: AriesLikeLamb.png]

so they are not all from France.


I don't know the earliest dates of sleeping/prone examples yet. I do know it's hard to find them earlier than c. 1450.

The sacrificial lamb is much older.


[P.S., since the last forum update, the editor is adding a lot of extra carriage returns and I can't delete them even in the code editor.]
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VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 16-07-2019, 11:12 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 17-07-2019, 05:14 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 17-07-2019, 12:19 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 18-07-2019, 01:45 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 17-07-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 18-07-2019, 04:26 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by nablator - 18-07-2019, 08:20 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 18-07-2019, 12:39 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 18-07-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 18-07-2019, 01:03 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 18-07-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 18-07-2019, 11:19 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 19-07-2019, 09:58 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 19-07-2019, 02:32 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 18-07-2019, 10:45 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 19-07-2019, 09:03 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 19-07-2019, 05:17 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 20-07-2019, 02:39 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 20-07-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by nablator - 20-07-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 20-07-2019, 07:48 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 21-07-2019, 12:35 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 21-07-2019, 03:53 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 23-07-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 24-07-2019, 07:35 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 25-07-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 26-07-2019, 06:57 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 26-07-2019, 05:52 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 26-07-2019, 06:00 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 26-07-2019, 07:04 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 26-07-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Linda - 26-07-2019, 08:12 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 26-07-2019, 10:55 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 27-07-2019, 12:52 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Common_Man - 27-07-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by Koen G - 27-07-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 28-07-2019, 12:36 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 01-08-2019, 12:22 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 01-08-2019, 11:42 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 03-08-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 12:09 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 04-08-2019, 12:26 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 04-08-2019, 12:45 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 12:55 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 01:07 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 04-08-2019, 01:27 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 04-08-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 04-08-2019, 06:03 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 04-08-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 07-08-2019, 12:25 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 07-08-2019, 06:03 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 07-08-2019, 02:57 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 07-08-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 07-08-2019, 05:14 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 07-08-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 07-08-2019, 10:30 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by VViews - 07-08-2019, 11:25 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 08-08-2019, 03:22 AM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by bi3mw - 08-08-2019, 12:02 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by ReneZ - 08-08-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by -JKP- - 08-08-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: VMs (f80v) critter identified - by R. Sale - 11-08-2019, 12:33 AM

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