04-04-2019, 03:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-04-2019, 03:41 PM by rasiratros.)
(04-04-2019, 01:43 PM)rasiratros wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(04-04-2019, 06:09 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Okay, here are some samples that are close. There are probably some with even closer matches to Agrippa or the VMS text in terms of individual letters, but these are the ones with an OVERALL score of similarity.
Your sample at the top of the thread is in German and the one I sampled is Latin, but it's the same handwriting. I used a folio from the University of Leipzig.
There are a couple of samples in this group that score approximately the same, but they use double-story "a" exclusively, and since Agrippa doesn't do that, I didn't include them. The VMS, however, might have a double-story "a" in the same handwriting as the last page (top of folio 17r).
I didn't include scores for slant, spacing, etc., but Agrippa's handwriting is spaced much tighter (the letters are closer together) than the handwriting on 116v.
Note also, that the "z" at the end of the VMS-text line is probably not a "z", it might be the rotated-m abbreviation symbol (17r), but many scribes wrote "z" and rotated-m the same way, so I include it for reference.
Hello and thank you for answer. after many comparisons of midieval handwriting and VM, I came to the conclusion that without professional graphological analysis nothing can be said for sure. I also create a scale as a percentage, but then a lot of facts made me give up the comparison: 1. I do not have exactly the same tools for creating a manuscript, where I could check the difference between my handwriting and writing on paper. 2. The last page is not a real text that is usually written, it looks like an exercise or a drafting game. I also tried to do it on paper and saw that the width between the letters is different from my usual handwriting. the same applied to the inclination and shape of the letters. I realized that the text on the last page f116v should also be considered in a table with percentages of no more than 80%. I decided to intensify my guesswork and I want to turn to a parchment specialist. In my country it is called "sofer". I know this is not real graph analysis, but it can also clarify a lot for me if the author is not Agrippa.
maby should compare last page with german Agrippa's letters, i think it would be interesting. i can do it and we'll discuss?
i just do this fast. manny glifs i haven't put because i'm not quite sure what they are. first three lines marked blue line. German version
![[Image: Agrippa-Hand-Comparison1.jpg]](https://i.ibb.co/8d0zV8f/Agrippa-Hand-Comparison1.jpg)
I noticed that the variant of writing the same letters may be different. I think it happens to everyone who writes. so now i understand i can hardly say the matching %. i dont know how to measure.
(04-04-2019, 02:11 PM)bi3mw wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.your native language are german? is that so can you roughly say are some words not real or many times repeat?(04-04-2019, 01:43 PM)rasiratros wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
maby should compare last page with german Agrippa's letters, i think it would be interesting. i can do it and we'll discuss?
I do not know if digitized letters from Agrippa von Nettesheim can be found on the internet, but any comparison would be on a secure footing as far as the handwriting is concerned. The uncertainty when comparing with MS. 517 of the Wellcome Historical Medical Library would be eliminated.


![[Image: AgrippaHandComparison.png]](https://voynichportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/AgrippaHandComparison.png)