30-01-2019, 12:03 AM
@JKP
But you don´t rule out, that it could be a normally written old natural language without any code except maybe the alphabet itself, right?
@davidjackson
Thank you for this definition. Such things we did not learn in our university time.
In a very mysterious way also the VMS did built very long words. I work at the moment with a four - line - transcription - system. Line 2 is the original transcription, which is directly based on the VMS, Line 3 is the medieval near form after the language developing process over the in-between-centuries.
One word consists in line 2 of two words, which are melting together into the line 3- variation. So it consists now of 13 or maybe 14 letters.
I think, that this is depending on the point of view. For me, a language becomes easier, when her rules becomes more clear, also when this makes the language more complex. But, I can imagine, that this isn´t the usual point of view.
@ Koen G
Today I read some articles about this topic. I will post the links to them here, later. It is proved, that the Vikings were in "Vinland" (today: the region around New Brunswick). Also there is some probability that, the Solutré people went over the iced ocean 20000 years ago and reach America. And there are some exploration candidates more. But these candidates I have to double - check once more. And I have another suspicion. But I have to prove this suspicion before I post it.
@MarcoP
And if there is no evidence we can throw these theories into the rubbish
But maybe, someone will found a evidence for the non- alien- theory of them, we will see....
But you don´t rule out, that it could be a normally written old natural language without any code except maybe the alphabet itself, right?
@davidjackson
Quote: Then it's not strictly agglutinative. It is synthetic. Synthetic languages form words by affixing a given number of dependent morphemes to a root morpheme. (Most Indo-European languages are synthetic).
Thank you for this definition. Such things we did not learn in our university time.
Quote: So this fits with Stolfi's core / crust / mantle theory - we are seeing modifiers to the stem. Agglutinative languages (think of German or Inuit) tend to produce very long words, which isn't what we see in the VM corpus.
In a very mysterious way also the VMS did built very long words. I work at the moment with a four - line - transcription - system. Line 2 is the original transcription, which is directly based on the VMS, Line 3 is the medieval near form after the language developing process over the in-between-centuries.
One word consists in line 2 of two words, which are melting together into the line 3- variation. So it consists now of 13 or maybe 14 letters.
Quote: Actually, the opposite is often postulated to be true. Compare a modern language like English with Latin or Hebrew, Assyrian or ancient Turk. The subject is far too complex for me to boil down to a couple of sentences over my porridge, but it is often the case that the older a language is, the most rigid and complex it becomes.
I think, that this is depending on the point of view. For me, a language becomes easier, when her rules becomes more clear, also when this makes the language more complex. But, I can imagine, that this isn´t the usual point of view.
@ Koen G
Quote: Unless you count the Vikings. But this scenario is impossible. There is no indication of either Nordic or Pre-Columbian culture in the VM.
Today I read some articles about this topic. I will post the links to them here, later. It is proved, that the Vikings were in "Vinland" (today: the region around New Brunswick). Also there is some probability that, the Solutré people went over the iced ocean 20000 years ago and reach America. And there are some exploration candidates more. But these candidates I have to double - check once more. And I have another suspicion. But I have to prove this suspicion before I post it.
@MarcoP
Quote: but making the idea plausible will require a huge amount of solid evidence
And if there is no evidence we can throw these theories into the rubbish
But maybe, someone will found a evidence for the non- alien- theory of them, we will see....