29-07-2017, 04:14 PM
Koen wrote:
Considering, that the rosette could mean wind rose or compass rose, we get North - at the top, South - at the bottom, West - to the left and East - to the right. In renaissance, the East was often noted with the cross, the North - with the fleur-de-lis.
"Old compass roses also often used a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. at Levante (E), indicating the direction of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. from the point of view of the Mediterranean sea." (Wikipedia)
So, the star to the right in Christian context could mean the Star of Bethlehem.
"You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.: Now after Jesus was born in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, saying, "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.""
But, as we see, the image doesn't represent a birth, rather - death and rebirth. As was noted, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in all times meant spring, grow and renovation, therefore it doesn't metter, whether green is a shroud or water.
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From Egypt or not, but green water (of baptism) also appeared in some Cristian pictures and texts. Moreover, sometimes You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. with the same implication - renewal.
There are many discussion about Christ - Osiris (Horus) associations, but really true that Osiris's star is an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., too.
As for the nymph with the "blowing cross" to the left (West), I think, in the whole it can represent the west wind (Favonius, Zephyrus), which gives moist and rains.
It is hard to identify images exactly with Christian or Egyptian culture, it likely looks like some cosmopolitan view on the theme of rebirth of renovation. I always keep in my mind Hermetical or alchemical ideas, which were popular in those times along with high interest to knowledges of Egypt in general, but, perhaps, it is another natural philosophy.
Quote:I'm strongly inclined to consider the possibility of a connection to Egypt. I wasn't even going to propose it since it's too exotic for many, but most significant details have been mentioned already by others:
* Dead figure looks like a mummy (JKP).
* Belief in star-related / cosmic resurrection (Anton). It must be noted as well that the color green was significant in this respect. As the color of new vegetation, it symbolized resurrection. That is why Osiris often has a green skin (especially i the Greco-Roman period as well). It also explains images like this:
Considering, that the rosette could mean wind rose or compass rose, we get North - at the top, South - at the bottom, West - to the left and East - to the right. In renaissance, the East was often noted with the cross, the North - with the fleur-de-lis.
"Old compass roses also often used a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. at Levante (E), indicating the direction of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. from the point of view of the Mediterranean sea." (Wikipedia)
So, the star to the right in Christian context could mean the Star of Bethlehem.
"You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.: Now after Jesus was born in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, saying, "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.""
But, as we see, the image doesn't represent a birth, rather - death and rebirth. As was noted, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in all times meant spring, grow and renovation, therefore it doesn't metter, whether green is a shroud or water.
From Egypt or not, but green water (of baptism) also appeared in some Cristian pictures and texts. Moreover, sometimes You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. with the same implication - renewal.
There are many discussion about Christ - Osiris (Horus) associations, but really true that Osiris's star is an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., too.
As for the nymph with the "blowing cross" to the left (West), I think, in the whole it can represent the west wind (Favonius, Zephyrus), which gives moist and rains.
Quote:ZEPHYRUS GOD OF SPRINGThe west wind is often related to equinox. "Between 40° and 60°S, semiannual and annual variations in zonal and meridional wind are of similar magnitude, resulting in a west-wind maximum near the vernal equinox and a secondary maximum near the autumnal equinox."
Callimachus, Hymn 2 to Apollo 81 ff (trans. Mair) (Greek poet C3rd B.C.) :
"Thine [Apollon's] altars wear flowers in spring, even all the pied flowers which the Horai (Horae, Seasons) lead forth when Zephyros (Zephyrus) breathes dew."
Virgil, Georgics 2. 323 ff (trans. Fairclough) (Roman bucolic C1st B.C.) :
"Spring it is that clothes the glades and forests with leaves . . . and the meadows ungirdle to Zephyrus's (the West Wind's) balmy breeze; the tender moisture avails for all."
Virgil, Georgics 3. 322 ff :
"At the Zephyrus' call, joyous summer sends both sheep and goats to the glades and pastures."
Seneca, Phaedra 11 (trans. Miller) (Roman tragedy C1st A.D.) :
"Where meadows lie which Zephyrus soothes with his dew-laden breath and calls forth the herbage of the spring."
Nonnus, Dionysiaca 2. 133 ff (trans. Rouse) (Greek epic C5th A.D.) :
"The swallow dear to Zephyros in spring-time, harbinger of roses and flowery dew, prattling bird that sings a sweet song under the tiles."
Nonnus, Dionysiaca 41. 45 ff :
"The bight of Libya [the city of Beroe in Lebanon, now Beirut] is fanned by the dewy whistle of Zephryos (the West Wind) as he rides with shrill-sounding heel over the western channels, where is a flowery land, where nurseries bloom hard by the sea, and the fragrant forest pervaded by humming winds sings from its leafy trees."
It is hard to identify images exactly with Christian or Egyptian culture, it likely looks like some cosmopolitan view on the theme of rebirth of renovation. I always keep in my mind Hermetical or alchemical ideas, which were popular in those times along with high interest to knowledges of Egypt in general, but, perhaps, it is another natural philosophy.

