19-07-2017, 02:12 AM
Hello Anton,
referring also to the other thread, I agree that it is a bit more likely that Tepenec gave the MS to someone before his death.
However, someone like Mnisowsky could quite well have convinced the Jesuits to give (or even sell) this book to him after T's death.
After all (and this is another form of 'Voynich MS' bias), the MS was not nearly as fascinating then, as it is now.
It was not obvious that it was 'uncrackable', and people would not have known that there exists no other book in this language or code.
Anyway...
This is also related to two other unknowns: we don't know if his ex libris simply faded, or was erased (two quite different situations) and whether it was still visible or not when Barschius and Marci first saw the MS.
I don't see a particular role for Klesl w.r.t. the MS. I am also not tied to the possibility that Raphael learned about the history of the MS from Sendivogius. This is simply one very good possibility and there are others. The main point is that nobody should try to argue that Mnisowsky 'could not have known' about the MS. From everything that is known about him, there is nothing strange or unusual that he knew.
In 1621-1622, when Tepenec was ill, Marci and Barschius did not yet play a role in Prague. Marci was still a student. It is possible that Tepenec knew Barschius through the Clementinum, and it is possible that Raphael knew him through their common interest in alchemy (which also applies for T) but this is quite uncertain.
More later....
referring also to the other thread, I agree that it is a bit more likely that Tepenec gave the MS to someone before his death.
However, someone like Mnisowsky could quite well have convinced the Jesuits to give (or even sell) this book to him after T's death.
After all (and this is another form of 'Voynich MS' bias), the MS was not nearly as fascinating then, as it is now.
It was not obvious that it was 'uncrackable', and people would not have known that there exists no other book in this language or code.
Anyway...
This is also related to two other unknowns: we don't know if his ex libris simply faded, or was erased (two quite different situations) and whether it was still visible or not when Barschius and Marci first saw the MS.
I don't see a particular role for Klesl w.r.t. the MS. I am also not tied to the possibility that Raphael learned about the history of the MS from Sendivogius. This is simply one very good possibility and there are others. The main point is that nobody should try to argue that Mnisowsky 'could not have known' about the MS. From everything that is known about him, there is nothing strange or unusual that he knew.
In 1621-1622, when Tepenec was ill, Marci and Barschius did not yet play a role in Prague. Marci was still a student. It is possible that Tepenec knew Barschius through the Clementinum, and it is possible that Raphael knew him through their common interest in alchemy (which also applies for T) but this is quite uncertain.
More later....
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