16-06-2017, 10:25 PM
Hi Jake Cross,
welcome to the forum!
You are correct that the way the water element is represented in the Ripley Scroll image is not a good match with the central rosette's starry canopy.
About your interpretation: I find the parallel with ciboria interesting, and I would like to know if you have any ideas about why there would be six of them in this image.
Beyond that, I'm not sure I understand the structure you propose for the crowns and tiara.
Are you saying the floating starry canopy is a crown, surrounded by the six "ciboria"?
The starry canopy is not just surrounded by the six "ciboria", it is actually floating in mid air, or possibly resting on their edges. It is clearly depicted as a flat thing. To me this does not really fit well with a crown. Do you have any examples of ancient or medieval crowns depicted in this way?
Also, am I correct in understanding that you propose that the scalloped circles around the ciboria are the tiers of a papal tiara? In that case, how is the crown at the base of the tiara, if there are ciboria in between?
Even though medieval perspective representation is often a bit dodgy, I don't see how a crown surrounded by ciboria can then be surrounded by the concentric layers of a tiara.
Perhaps I've misunderstood you?
welcome to the forum!
You are correct that the way the water element is represented in the Ripley Scroll image is not a good match with the central rosette's starry canopy.
About your interpretation: I find the parallel with ciboria interesting, and I would like to know if you have any ideas about why there would be six of them in this image.
Beyond that, I'm not sure I understand the structure you propose for the crowns and tiara.
Are you saying the floating starry canopy is a crown, surrounded by the six "ciboria"?
The starry canopy is not just surrounded by the six "ciboria", it is actually floating in mid air, or possibly resting on their edges. It is clearly depicted as a flat thing. To me this does not really fit well with a crown. Do you have any examples of ancient or medieval crowns depicted in this way?
Also, am I correct in understanding that you propose that the scalloped circles around the ciboria are the tiers of a papal tiara? In that case, how is the crown at the base of the tiara, if there are ciboria in between?
Even though medieval perspective representation is often a bit dodgy, I don't see how a crown surrounded by ciboria can then be surrounded by the concentric layers of a tiara.
Perhaps I've misunderstood you?