Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r
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(31-12-2016, 08:39 PM)bunny wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.P.S.  If you do rearrange a longish sentence of completely random words, eg, get a computer to randomly generate which number word to chose from the list and you can rearrange to make something I would be very interested to see the result.


Bunny, this is dodging the question again.

If you accept that individual glyphs can be anagramed, then you have to accept that words can be anagramed.

If words can be anagramed, then your choices of "valid" words once again becomes an astronomically huge number and there would be no difficulty in constructing valid-looking sentences about pretty much anything (a one-way cipher).


You either have to reject or accept anagrams. You can't simply accept letter-anagrams and then reject word-anagrams at your own convenience unless you can find evidence in the text that one was used and the other wasn't.

Not dodging at all, letters within words anagrammed, words in sentences not - maybe in someone else's investigations they have been between words but not that I know of.  I find it hard to grasp that you find the concept of inra-word anagramming difficult, as others have also found and used it without such intellectual blockages about it. Also these disliked methods have followed rules which are in fact very set but not acceptable to the general.  For myself it was in one case set letter groups, few for consonants, more for vowels, up to 2 missing letters and anagramming in some cases, no exceptions, not random to the degree assumed.  Consonant groups p/b d/t and vowels o/u/v i/j etc are not historically unheard of within languages.  Gematria is a new approach to me, and I am open to see where it goes and what it yields.  All I hear is how infinite the choices are, no one seems to ask how he determines what he does out of the infinite, or how factual it may be, that is my interest in it.  I don't see the same as Stellar and would replace Mars with Pleiades maybe, but that may be just a different layer of information, neither wrong.

But I can only speak for my own investigations and what I have seen of others, inter-word anagramming has not been necessary and so not even on the radar as a consideration. I guess this is an impasse, I'm not looking at a one-way or single any way cipher as you may be assuming this is what it must mean.  Maybe you can't see any merit in what Stella finds, or in any similar methods.

Bunny


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Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by stellar - 20-11-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by bunny - 01-01-2017, 03:51 PM
Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:05 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 01-01-2017, 04:02 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 02-01-2017, 07:29 PM
Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:08 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 02:25 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 03:06 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 04:54 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 05:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 06:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 08:30 AM

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