The Voynich Ninja

Wladimir, those are wonderful observations - I never realized that <p> and <f> sometimes have a <e> character under them:

Quote:Anton, if you decomposed gallows "f" and "k" with modifiers t1 and t2 into two partsYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  , then you must recognize the independent existence the "vertical line" character. Is it so?

Actually yes, but the problem is that we don't meet it as such - at least not too often . The examples of yours are of short vertical lines, not of tall ones.

One explanation though of why the vertical in gallows is tall is that it is deliberately made tall in gallows so as the "gallows coverage" can be enforced (I believe I already proposed that somewhere in the Forum). So, the vertical is natively short, but it is made tall in the gallows specifically for the "gallows coverage" to be possible.

But the standalone short vertical is also extremely rare, I suppose. This speaks against it being a "basic" shape. A shape that is extremely rare is not a "basic" one.

(12-10-2016, 06:50 PM)Wladimir D Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Who can explain the cause such spelling gallows "f" and "p"? My explanation I will publish tomorrow.
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Anton, if you decomposed gallows "f" and "k" with modifiers t1 and t2 into two partsYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  , then you must recognize the independent existence the "vertical line" character. Is it so?
A new example of "vertical line" on f70r2.  (is rotated 90 degrees)

The translation of text is in the picture bellow

In 5 picture you have 3 different "P" just one is letter P like in our languages

Hi sidanno, please stay on topic; this thread is for posting and discussion of unusual glyphs and combinations in the text, not for attempts of text translation.

I perform the promise.
Three upper, example are the consequence, what is happening when writing of the gallows "p" with bench.
In the manuscript there is a ban on the sequence of characters "eph" (at the beginning, middle and end of a word). He extends to all the other "gallows".
If you will check, you will find two words You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  , but it is high definition scans will You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
"сfh" and "ckh".
Explanation of such a ban the following;
If you apply my new transcription of "hyphen -", then if the quick letter of gallows on the ground floor, it can turn into a "a capital gallows" and instead of the word "ep-eol" get the word "e-peol".
In order to avoid confusion, the gallows are sent to the second floor over the "e".
It can be explained similarly gallows "t" c "e" between the legs. Figure 4.  
That the gallows over "c" should be read "cp" character sequence can be seen in the new example of Figure 1. (Other explanation I can not see.)
Here, above the symbol "c" written code 192 v101 (slash + bracket).

Wladimir, I have not yet answered to any of your posts, but in my opinion they are of great interest.

I think they have many different implications, but I can't claim that I understand them all. At least not yet.

A simple first point is that no transcription alphabet can properly represent all the features of the text in the MS.

Thank you for your excellent contributions!

(12-10-2016, 08:29 PM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Wladimir, those are wonderful observations - I never realized that <p> and <f> sometimes have a <e> character under them:

hi Anton  Can you tell me where you found this text on manuscript?

(13-10-2016, 06:37 PM)sidanno Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Can you tell  me where you found this text on manuscript?

Hi Sidanno - the page number for each image is under the word. For example, the first image is on page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .

Sidanno, ThomasCoon,
in the interest of thread legibility and FYI:
when you quote a post in your reply, you can delete parts of it (manually, using the delete key on your keyboard) so that you only quote the part you are actually replying to, without reposting pictures that take up lots of space on the thread.

Yes I back this, one's consistently quoting images totally discourages users to read those posts.