The Voynich Ninja

I think it's possible, Wladimir.

I also think it's possible that d (which has two forms) might be a ligature, as well, e + l and e + short stemmed loop (I don't know the EVA-symbol for the short-stemmed version).

Yes that's possible, but it's difficult to distinguish e from "i with a hook" in occurrences of l.

(14-11-2018, 09:24 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think it's possible, Wladimir.

I also think it's possible that d (which has two forms) might be a ligature, as well, e + l and e + short stemmed loop (I don't know the EVA-symbol for the short-stemmed version).

JKP,

Sorry to bother you but-

do you mean Eva-152?
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and is it the one on f70r2 (outer circle ~11 o'clock, ?chedy)?

I was looking at "ed" occurrences in Quire 10 following on VViews' thread in "tasks".
Then I had one of those "What!?" moments! 
(then another on the verso side i.e. Pisces)

Don, yes, that's the one, EVA-152, although there isn't always a gap where the loop comes down to the baseline.

(15-11-2018, 09:23 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Don, yes, that's the one, EVA-152, although there isn't always a gap where the loop comes down to the baseline.

JKP, cool thanks!

The f70r2 one is even weirder though, as the "c" shape appears disconnected top and bottom!

A couple of odd ones from 67r2:

This looks like it was originally two e's, amended to form a k gallows:


And I have no idea what the last character here is:

VViews, there are a number of places in which a foot of a gallows sits on top of a small c shape.

I am preparing a new blog, in which I will offer for your discussion a transcription of several (so far two) pages “In elementary strokes”. Anticipating the publication, (in addition to the previously published examples in this topic) I want to show my vision of how glyphs are decomposed into elementary strokes and how their order changes in different “artifact glyphs”.
Examining the Latin cursive, 
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 I got the idea that the gallows are composed on the same principle (in the sequential writing of their strokes). In this case, the transcription of the gallows will take the following form.
Here I want to answer the question MARK in this thread  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.   . Yes, visually, these are the same glyphs, but in the lower “register” the order of the strokes is written q = ﮮ + | , while in the gallows the reverse order of strokes | + ﮮ.
A few more examples of decomposition.
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In examples 2 and 3, modifiers change the order.
In my opinion, the presence of a point in the right loop of the gallows P and F and the filled right loop of the gallows K and T has the identical meaning. In this case, a point is added to the transcription of the gallows (examples 7 and 8).
The advantage of this transcription is that it is possible to decompose with the help of a limited number of elementary strokes almost all strange characters (including those found in a single copy from page 57v), and can also explain the existence of symbols inside legs of the gallows (Fig. 10a).
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Examples 11 and 12 are the same decomposition.
Example 13 is the reverse order of writing strokes compared to o-EVA.
Example 14 is similar to 13, but with the addition of an apostrophe.
I shouted, like Archimedes, the word of Eureka, when I realized what ligature is - (Figure 17).

 
 

In the ninth line of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is a ligature, the transcription of which is multivariate among different authors eva- s, d or "?" You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
If you look at a good increase, it is noticeable that the red and blue lines are not a continuation of each other. The red line is written with a backslash, as eva- "i" is written. So, eva- s cannot be, since the modifier for eva- “s” begins to be written from the bottom up and then to the left.
My opinion is that on the second floor above eva- “c” one of the spelling variants eva- “a” is written (analogue of “a” based on the line in f33v).
Let me remind you that on the second floor, there are also eva- e, l, o, r, y.
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It looks to me like the VMS has both a short c-shape and a long c-shape in various parts of the manuscript, and the one in your example on the left looks to me like a long c-shape with a tail (a connected macron).

It also seems to me that the VMS has both a short a-shape and a long a-shape and your example on the right looks to me like a long a-shape.


Some transcription systems acknowledge the long-c shape and even include it in their alphabet, but I haven't seen one that includes the long a-shape (maybe Glen Claston's system has long a-shape but I haven't seen his system yet and won't have time to look at it in the near future).

Even though I've done 4 transcripts, I am not at all sure if there is a distinction between long-a and short-a, but I am pretty sure there is a distinction between long-c and short-c.