The Voynich Ninja

Lets assume I'm right and the author was around during the supernova of 1006 he worked on it from 1005 to daiin OCTOESSR October of 1006.  This event would contribute to speaking in tongues, because of the night sky brightness of the supernova.  The people may have thought the Cosmic signs were a prelude to God's wrath.

One other tidbit of info eva "chan" is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. means air and sky listed 11 times by itself the MS-408.  The folio just before where I found Alueo and MVIO has one hit of "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.".

I have a site where you can put in Latin words and it outputs eva to check.
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What could be additional evidence and it would be the beginning of the stirrup usage for the hand held crossbow.  You have to admit that crossbow looks antiquated.  Now I don't want to sound disgusting but the guy has a grin and his target is a little suggestive I digress.  The cross bow in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is extremely primitive and suggests 11th century.




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There is a stirrup design with the round hooks on the spanning in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 

Quote:The inclusion of a stirrup on the front of a crossbow to aid in spanning (drawing) the bow did not become a standard, ubiquitous feature until later in the Middle Ages, but its early, rare appearance in the 11th century is supported by emerging evidence.
Early Archaeological Evidence: While common, widespread use of the stirrup occurs around the turn of the 12th and 13th centuries, the earliest known European crossbow remains, which include stirrups, have been dated to the 11th century, notably from findings at Lake Paladru.
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The "Rare" 11th-Century Usage: While crossbows were present (e.g., at the Battle of Hastings in 1066), the stirrup was not universal. Early crossbowmen frequently held the bow down using their feet directly on the prod itself, a less efficient method that could damage the bow.
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Function of Early Stirrups: The 11th-century stirrup allowed the user to put their foot through a metal ring on the front, enabling them to use their strong back and leg muscles to draw the string, often while using a belt hook.
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Transition Period: The 11th century marked a transition in European weaponry. The crossbow was reintroduced/gained popularity after centuries of absence (10th century), but it was still developing the specialized, specialized metal stirrups and complex drawing devices that became standard in the 13th and 14th centuries.
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There is no doubt in my mind now, because I have the evidence.  It is a Glossolalia like I propose, an Angelic script with underlying Latin source code.  There are few rare Latin words and some Latin margin words which enabled the break through.  I believe the supernova setoff something with people witnessing in tongues and this was major during the supernova of 1006.  

Many people here including Bax believe including myself that folio 68r3 retains Pleiades.  That folio is a planisphere of some constellations during April 30th 1006 when the supernova went off.  The constellation are at 9:30 position W Taurus and Pleiades.  At the South West 7 position are Puppis (Argo Navis), Scorpius, Lupus but Crux you have to be further south than Venice to observe it that time of year.  At the 1 position NE you have Ursa Minor and Draco.  At East position for 3:30 you have Bootes, Virgo and Hydra.  Never mind the number I put in the SW they could be wrong.  Those constellation were in SW just at different times.  Puppis is the only one at the same time as NW, NE and SE.  The author slash artist was trying his best to convey the constellations of sn 1006.

I believe in this post the evidence points to a supernova of 1006 for MS-408 and that it is a constructed language about speaking in tongues with some rare Latin words.  I don't believe the carbon data to be accurate, unless the author researched the subject really well, that could be possible if he had access to a great Library.  Why I doubt the carbon dating? The margins of Latin MV and Se with my code found MVIO and the whole glossolalia idea, this would be of that time.  This is circa 1005-1006.

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sn 1006 appeared in a remote part of the sky.  It is known the that 1006 was off the galactic plane and remote.

I used my cipher and found the Latin word You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. means out of the way, remote, trackless, untrodden.  The word AUIO was found in f68r3 on the opposite end of the planisphere where the supernova 1006 was found.

Quote:Yes, SN 1006 was located in a relatively "remote" or isolated part of the sky, far from the dense, dust-filled plane of the Milky Way galaxy. Specifically, it occurred in the constellation Lupus, roughly 14 degrees off the galactic plane, which allowed its light to reach Earth, unobstructed, resulting in the brightest observed supernova in human history (brighter than Venus).
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This site converts eva to tongues and sometimes a latin word

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This site converts Latin words to eva:

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(16-04-2026, 03:28 AM)oeesordy Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Lets assume I'm right [..]
I have a site where you can put in Latin words and it outputs eva to check.
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You have to admit that crossbow looks antiquated.

This does not work out at all.

The first and easiest input says:



(looks like I was the first visitor)


Endings "a" are producing a Voynichese endings " ch ". I do not remind any 'vords' ending this way in whole script.

Any Latin with doubled characters would also produce doubled characters in Voynichese; such geminized letters are very rare in whole script (yes, this is still relevant).

Please assume that you might be wrong -- it's not Latin.

About the crossbow: you will find representations/pictures until deep into 15th/16th century showing this "antiquated design": those things had a simple and cheap design as a mass weapon for centuries. Not much new to invent for it from 9th CT. to 15th Ct.
Author/draftsman of VMS is rather notorious for being too precise with details...

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Thanks for the reply.  My cipher is a custom eva to Latin from highest to lowest frequency settings matching glyph to letter.  Of course eva represents a glyph.  I'm counting the ch as one letter "a" in my cipher and it has been telling.  I'm not speaking in tongues.  Yes if you put in eva "d" the Latin output will be Octo its tongues.  Some rare words come through as Latin and they have been key to information about findings.

Following up on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. I decided to check on the location of Rome with Stellarium.  There maybe confusion but west is to the right and east is to the left.  The South West constellations don't line up all at the same time just one Puppis for (Argo Navis)  When I move the time and stay on the 30th Scorpius and Lupus come into the South West together.  Crux is to far South.  Since we are comparing to f68r3, at the center is what looks like a moon not a sun which indicated night.  And the diagrams are at night. f68r2 shows a moon to the North and the face looks the same as the moon in f68r3.

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About Quattuor, Octo, and Novem?  This is 4,8 and 9 respectively.  They appear in MS-408.  Why its in tongues and its' special.  April is the 4th Month and it's when the supernova of 1006 occurred.  It faded after 3 months in August/September.  August is the 8th/9th months and it was gone only pulses.  daiin is name Octoessr so it could double for Octobris the date on MVIO in the earlier You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. And the sn 1006 that faded was gone in the South West.  Lupus was just on a hair line in the SW from Venice Italy.  And it would have faded almost entirely in Octobris.  Then the nova reappeared in Novembris so there goes the sounding like Novem.

So I interpreted tongues.

Must admit that I am not sure what „in tongues“ is supposed to mean; is it like babbling something?

So in total, your idea is that there are a few Latin words in Voynichese which gave you a key for character conversions, and all of the rest is „anything else“.
You see in „mv?“ from a small marginalia (which may or may not have any relation to the orginal script) a code for the year 1006, up to 430 years before VMS.

What texts can this understanding produce in a translation?
And yes, old manuscripts could have been an original author‘s work as well as a copy of some books being centuries or even millenials older — but why is the supernova information „hidden“ in such way and at a place where it can hardly be believed to belong to this script?

Do you see any doubts about your theory?

Quote:Must admit that I am not sure what „in tongues“ is supposed to mean; is it like babbling something?

My feeling is that this thread is a total mess.

I know what glossolalia in its standard meaning is  :a phenomenon or practice in which people utter words or speech-like sounds, often thought by believers to be languages unknown to the speaker
But I don't know what "Glossolalia" as understood by the author is:  an Angelic script with underlying Latin source code

"Speaking in tongues" is an imprecise phrase coming from the Bible. Sometimes it may mean the same as glossolalia, sometimes not.

One case is apostles speaking in foreign languages that they didn't know:
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This thing is called "speaking in tongues" but it was not glossolalia but xenoglossy: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Another case are Christians from Corinhth who practiced prayer by ecstatic speech/babbling:
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It is also called "speaking in tongues" and this was true glossolalia

But the author should really say how he understands these things as he probably has his own, private understanding of them.

@Stefan thanks for your input

Here is an example of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and its short, my pronunciation maybe terrible.  It's a prayer in speech where any syllable that leaves your vocal chords is a sign of devotion.  That's "speaking in tongues".  This could be the author's own words that he recorded with Latin. After he wrote down the words in Latin he assigned the glyphs to it as a dictionary.  Then he memorized the glyphs as Latin sounds and wrote out the MS-408, maybe he did not have any help by the looks of the pictures.  Currier A/B is him.  Or he had help that's a tough answer although the consensus says multiple scribes.

I have had other theories and I discounted them yet there is to much that has been connected here.  I believe the small amount of effort to show corrections for this text is a façade.  To make you think the language behind it is 100%.  The author had much going on with woman I believe he was male.  I'm a man and I can see the misogyny in the MS-408.  The crossbow man pointing his bolt at her vagina, naked ladies, tying up woman and woman being eaten by fish although that could be a man.  Maybe in away this tongue business was private but a confession and the supernova prompted this outpouring, speculation.  He had his fetishes and was brilliant if you ask me.  He had an omen on his back "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view." omen.

The reason it is hidden is the man wanted to get it out of his system his thoughts in tongues with God.  The supernova spurred on his soul.  He did leave little trails of morsels like MV, Se You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and some other Latin words I have found in the text with this unique Glossolalia Substitution cipher 1 to 1.

God is actually in the MS-408 as dio for dor which is in tongues as "OCTOIO" listed 73 times as dor for eva.  Octo is "d" for eva.

This fits for low entropy and why no one has decoded it or put a language to it.  For the first time in 17 years with these discoveries the doubting has diminished to .01 %.  I feel I have done it.  What I doubt is a guy gathered this from a library.

I was going to post this in the Chinese theory, but hey it's my theory right so here it is.  This tongues cipher has some hits with meaning.  It found ALE with the YANG plant for folio 38r You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. !  The plant depicts the YANG symbol missing the Ying.  YANG with medicine I believe this the fist hit.

Does anyone want me to really record some more of me speaking in tongues from MS-408?

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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and YANG - mean nurturing healing  to feed, nourish, support, sustain, maintain

[figuratively] to nourish, cherish, promote, increase, strengthen

Quote:Context: It is often used to describe nourishing the body, mind, spirit, or community.
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Note: In the context of Traditional Chinese Medicine, Yang Sheng (as defined on Ecosse Acupuncture) also focuses on "nourishing life," which involves nurturing physical and mental well-being.
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