(06-09-2020, 03:41 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is just when you pulled that one on me recently when we were talking about plane matching and on that occasion I didn't point out that you were doing this again. You went to the line about you having done X for 13 years.
I am not saying I agree with asdrpradii at all, although I don't believe that he made an appeal to authority. You should rely and have confidence on your arguments alone. It you only make this kind of remark in this discussion I would have ignored it, but I have found you pull those kind of lines with me often, so when I see it makes me exasperated. My advice to you is just to try and avoid doing that and just rely on your arguments. I might disagree with other people, but I can't think of anyone else pulling those kinds of lines on me. It shouldn't be necessary.
Mark, please stay on topic. If you want to discuss your dislike of people talking about their credentials, take it to the Water Cooler. It doesn't belong on this thread.
(06-09-2020, 03:42 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Please be indulgent, apparently it's written by the children. I'm not familiar with the American educational system: "high school" corresponds to what age?
If this is the correct Robert Downing (he writes that he is researching the VMS), then he is clearly not a child:
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In America, high school is ages 16 to 18 (mostly).
bi3mw, thanks for the links. Even if the papers are sometimes disappointing, the links are appreciated.
We would also like to thank
Mr. Robert Downing for his guidance throughout the project, as
well as the Olive Children Foundation and the ASDRP faculty and
staff for giving us this opportunity to conduct research.
He did not write, he "guided".
Ruby, I just had an awful thought...
Maybe Downing was a mentor for the paper and the other names are teenagers. If that is the case, Downing should have steered them far away from Cheshire's work. They should have looked at Emma and Marco's papers or Torsten Timm's papers... something with research credibility.
If this was written by teenagers, then the layout and presentation is good. The logic and research needs a lot of work. And Downing should have steered them away from Cheshire.
If you start with bad research, a bad foundation, it's hard to build anything solid out of it. It's like trying to sculpt wood out of ashes.
Ruby is right
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"We believe all children should realise their potential to transform the world"
This should have been explained at the outset rather than buried in the acknowledgments at the bottom
What JKP says in his last 2 posts is correct though
New article -> new thread please.
Threads split.
Mark, if you keep pushing threads towards off-topic in your trademark way, we will start issuing warnings. Please only discuss the matter at hand.
(06-09-2020, 04:03 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ruby, I just had an awful thought...
Maybe Downing was a mentor for the paper and the other names are teenagers.
I also believe that this is the case (ASDRP). I think it would have been Downing's responsibility to point out the problems with Cheshire's work. He can't just say, "Go ahead."