The Voynich Ninja

(22-12-2020, 10:38 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Might this be similar?



Note also surrounded by Sun, Moon, elements...


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Hi Koen,
those illustrations are wonderful! It's a pity that there are so few in the ms.
In the Genesis illustration, the circle is nicely split into four very similar regions, each likely corresponding to one of the elements that, as you say, also appear outside the circle.
The inner area of the Voynich Rosette is highly asymmetrical and it contains about 15 labelled features.
As always, we see both structural similarities and considerable differences...

I guess you are rib-hunting, uh? 

Indeed 
The advantage of a wild rib-hunt is getting to know new manuscripts.

As to the similarities, I agree, it's the familiar feeling. It might be related to this, but it's also different.

Yale has had a make-over in the last few hours.

It's possible these scans are higher resolution (or maybe the viewer just displays them better) because I can make out the shifted alphabet in the third column (f1r) better than I could in the previous scan.


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Linda posted this some time ago. I noticed a certain detail, the fall of the whore of Babylon:

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Hmmm

Usually litterae elongatae emphasize the ascenders more than the descenders, so this is an interesting 12th-century departure from that pattern that puts significant emphasis on the descenders. It also includes some manicules:

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Does anyone know where this lady might be from or what the object might represent? I found the image here, without reference: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

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(26-03-2021, 07:16 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Does anyone know where this lady might be from or what the object might represent? I found the image here, without reference: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

It's a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. at Castel Roncolo / Runkelstein (South Tyrol). 
The image also made me think of the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in Castello del Buonconsiglio (Trento).

Thanks, Marco, that's it indeed!
When I saw it, I was actually sure that it was from the snowball fresco, and I was stumped when it didn't appear to match.

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Actually... A ball game isn't a bad idea for this folio, is it? There is one ball "in play".

(26-03-2021, 10:07 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When I saw it, I was actually sure that it was from the snowball fresco, and I was stumped when it didn't appear to match.

Ahah, me too. The colour of the ball should have suggested that it's something different. Anyway, the distance between Trento and Runkelstein in only about 60 km along the Eischtal/Val d'Adige: I think that the author of the later fresco could have seen the earlier work. Both cycles date to 1400 ca.
I am sure that historian must have compared these two important fresco cycles.

(26-03-2021, 10:07 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Actually... A ball game isn't a bad idea for this folio, is it? There is one ball "in play".

In my opinion, the circular arrangement suggests that the illustration does not represent anything realistic. It is some sort of diagram, likely representing some abstract concept, like the four seasons, the winds, the wheel of fortune etc. (though of course it does not seem to be any of these). The idea that it was inspired by a ball game seems worth considering. I doubt it can be a "literal" ball-game, but who knows?

Other globular objects appear in the hands of figures of similar diagrams You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (right-side figure) and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Though You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is different, with naked figures and no other "attributes" than this single "ball", it is possible that the globular objects in these diagrams are related.

Well, there are also naked people in the bathhouse at Runkelstein Castle.