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  Wladimir D > 21-10-2016, 10:53 AM

  I represent all the "wide gallows" "the k" and "t", as well as a non-standard a selection gallows "f" and "p".
  Your thoughts about these characters?
  Figure 23 and 24 - the same glyph.
  I ask to make the computer processing of the dedicated fragment of yellow in Figure 12. My opinion: on the left leg is a loop. If is the loop, there in the text at all is no the "broad gallows" "k".
  
  There are a thread, which discusses why the is no double gallows? My suggestion:
  Figure 38 - "p + p"
  Figure 42 - "p + f"
  Figure 28 - "f + t"
  Figure 29 - "k + k"
  
  In Figure 27, the author originally wanted to to write normal gallows "p", but then extended the line up and wrote "wide gallows" "p".

• RE: BROAD "GALLOWS"

  Anton > 21-10-2016, 02:54 PM

  Thx Wladimir, excellent set of examples.
  
  As expressed in another thread, I believe that the sole reason for broad t and k is for them to be able to enforce the "gallows coverage", which p anf f can do naturally just by way of extending their loop. Some p and f examples that you provide are probably idle embellishments, but some (such as e.g. ex. 42) look as employing additional tail modifiers - which only strengthens the point that the whole principle behind the Voynichese alphabet is the principle of superposition.

• RE: BROAD "GALLOWS"

  ThomasCoon > 21-10-2016, 04:14 PM

  Thank you for the wonderful examples Wladimir!
  
  Anton, can I ask what you mean by "the point that the whole principle behind the Voynichese alphabet is the principle of superposition"?

• RE: BROAD "GALLOWS"

  Anton > 21-10-2016, 05:41 PM

  Quote:Anton, can I ask what you mean by "the point that the whole principle behind the Voynichese alphabet is the principle of superposition"?

  
  What is meant is that a composite glyph's meaning (in other words, the object "behind" a composite glyph, something that the glyph is meant to designate) is a linear combination, or "superposition" of "meanings" of basic shapes that the complex glyph is comprised of.
  
  For example, if the "meaning" of a is Z, while "meanings" of e and i are X and Y, respectively, then Z might be X+Y (since a = e + i).
  
  In its basic form, the principle has been used in a medieval monastic cipher (described in the book by D. Kahn), where complex graphic patterns comprised of basic lines meant numbers equal to the sum of the numbers designated by the basic lines.
  
  Another basic example is the Roman numbering system: if I = 1, and M = 1000, then MMI = 1000+1000+1 = 2001. Or, XC = 90, which is a linear combination still, because 90 = (-1)*10 + 1*100.

• RE: BROAD "GALLOWS"

  Wladimir D > 24-10-2016, 05:38 AM

  My idea is this. All the symbols (gallows, apostrophe, point, "o", "s", "r" ...) on the second floor to be read after the symbol on which they are written. Therefore, the "combined gallows" decomposed into parts a) From left b) bottom to top. As a result, we get:
  
   Ps/  The red circle on the left leg - there is no loop.
  
  THOMAS / There is another "idea of the week". On page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. no apostrophe!

• RE: BROAD "GALLOWS"

  ThomasCoon > 24-10-2016, 03:27 PM

  (24-10-2016, 05:38 AM)Wladimir D Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.THOMAS / There is another "idea of the week". On page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. no apostrophe!

  
  Thank you Wladimir!  
  I'll add that next week!
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